We've always had better luck (With and SP on and MS OS) with installing the SP on a fresh build of the OS, then install Apps, Citrix, and then Hotfixes. Installing a SP on an existing machine is generally an invite for problems. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of IT Support Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:26 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 Citrix was installed prior to the SP1 update. Regards Jaime _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: 14 December 2005 17:21 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 Are you installing SP1 after Citrix is installed? Or is this a fresh w2k3 with SP1. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of IT Support Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:55 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 Thanks Jeff, Interestingly enough, we are moving from Windows 2003 MPS 4.0, to Windows 2003 MPS 4.0 - Just the service pack added, hence we didn't expect all this bother!! Our UPHCLEAN is also of the latest flavor, but we will keep our eyes on this one. We seem to work in a blame environment whereas if it's not Microsoft's fault then it will Citrix's!! Regards Jaime _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch Sent: 14 December 2005 16:46 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 1) There is funky thing microsoft runs with Win2k3 that seems to do this. Nothing to do with Citrix 2) Again Windows and you need UPHCLEAN. 3) yea hasn't changed in years even with 3.0 4) Logoff button is windows 5) yes when you change OS's many things change. Why would IE settings have anything to do with Citrix? You mentioned profile being reset well this is an effect of that. When you make such large changes (I'm assumin gyour coming from Windows 2000 and MFXP) you have to expect these types of large changes. Jeff Pitsch On 12/14/05, IT Support <it@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Trying to get our printing problems resolved, we were advised by citrix to put on Windows 2003 SP1 and roll up package <http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX107504> PSE400W2K3R01 We've just put both on a test server, and have noticed some very strange oddities straight away. 1. Profiles settings initially being wiped upon login. Fixed with SDT <http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=238> & RDT 2. Profiles are now not being cleared down upon logoff - temporary files remain. 3. The login process has changed, no status boxes are displayed upon login, and the splash screen now says "CITRIX METAFRAME XP SERVER FOR WINDOWS" - huh? On an MPS4 box? 4. logoff button now says "Log Off DOMAIN\USERNAME" rather than just "Log Off USERNAME" 5. Internet Explorer options and settings have also changed, with toolbar buttons defaulting to small, even though they were set to large previously and other oddities - and new features that need testing and locking down! And that's what we've noticed within five minutes of logging on! Can anyone point us in the direction of a definitive list, and possible further fixes??? Cheers.