[THIN] Re: Demoted a pdc to a bdc in a 2003 enviorment.
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:59:06 -0700
Bring up Server Manager or any other NT domain utility and all of your AD
controllers (except for PDCe) will be labeled as BDCs... For all downlevel
clients they will see and authenticate with these DCs as if they were BDCs.
The downlevel client itself can't distinguish between a W2k DC acting like a
BDC or a NT 4 BDCs. Also, NT 4 BDCs are able to participate in a mixed-mode
AD environment.
Perhaps it is all semantics... Look at it from a NT Domain point of view,
it is... Look at it from an AD point of view, it isn't. Some domains are
mixed, others are native.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Braebaum, Neil
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:40 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Demoted a pdc to a bdc in a 2003 enviorment.
They don't, because they can't, because they ask for the PDC, or the
PDCe (in AD environments) when they change password.
As to the second bit - what sort of client?
Getting back to my response to your posting, though - I'm sorry, but you
are wrong - there are not BDCs in AD - whether that's semantics, or not.
Now there is a point, that for downlevel clients, password changes may
not be possible without the PDCe being up, but that's not the same as
saying there are effectively PDCs and BDCs in AD.
Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
> Sent: 04 October 2005 16:50
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Demoted a pdc to a bdc in a 2003 enviorment.
>
> Correct, but how many NT Clients do you know that attempt a
> password change on a BDC? If the PDC emulator is offline,
> the client will still produce an error when a logs on.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Braebaum, Neil
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 5:14 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Demoted a pdc to a bdc in a 2003 enviorment.
>
> Well, no there are not - at least not like-for-like. Whilst
> some DCs may be more equal than others in AD, they all still
> have a writable copy of the database. Not so for BDCs in an NT domain.
>
> Neil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
> > Sent: 03 October 2005 20:19
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Demoted a pdc to a bdc in a 2003 enviorment.
> >
> > Yes, there are BDCs in AD... Basically any AD server that does not
> > host the PDC FSMO role functions as a BDC. Atleast, that's
> what the
> > down level clients see.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:40 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Demoted a pdc to a bdc in a 2003 enviorment.
> >
> > I think the first question is what do you mean by demoting
> a DC to a
> > BDC? there is no BDC role in AD. There is a FSMO role of PDC but
> > that's not quite the same as it used to mean.
> >
> > Jeff Pitsch
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/3/05, Pavlo Ignatusha <PIGNATUSHA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Dwaine,
> >
> > You should be able to set any domain controller to hold PDC role in
> > windows 2000/2003 domain.
> >
> > Open up AD users and Computers, right-click the domain and select
> > Operations Masters. From there you would access PDC tab.
> That controls
> > which server holds PDC role. Make sure DOS clients can access this
> > server.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dwaine Goings
> > Sent: September 30, 2005 3:06 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Demoted a pdc to a bdc in a 2003 enviorment.
> >
> > I did this and now my dos client can not connect to the
> domail. I am
> > running WINS in this enviorment. Can any one help?
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