I just love it when somebody takes Neils bait. it leads to some very interesting threads. lol On 05/10/05, Jeff Pitsch <jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I am so sorry I started this part of the thread. :( > > > On 10/5/05, Braebaum, Neil <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk > > > Sent: 05 October 2005 16:59 > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Demoted a pdc to a bdc in a 2003 enviorment. > > > > > > Bring up Server Manager or any other NT domain utility and > > > all of your AD controllers (except for PDCe) will be labeled > > > as BDCs... > > > > That's simply because any NT domain utility doesn't understand AD, and > > AD provides backward compatibility. > > > > Doesn't mean that because the NT domain utility says so, that it's the > > truth, though. > > > > > For all downlevel clients they will see and > > > authenticate with these DCs as if they were BDCs. > > > > Agreed. > > > > That doesn't make them so, though. > > > > > The downlevel client itself can't distinguish between a W2k > > > DC acting like a BDC or a NT 4 BDCs. > > > > So, that doesn't make them BDCs, though, just because that's how > > downlevel clients *perceive* them. > > > > > Also, NT 4 BDCs are > > > able to participate in a mixed-mode AD environment. > > > > And? Mixed mode was only there to provide transition from an NT domain > > to AD. > > > > > Perhaps it is all semantics... Look at it from a NT Domain > > > point of view, it is... Look at it from an AD point of view, > > > it isn't. Some domains are mixed, others are native. > > > > Regardless, AD DCs are not BDCs. They are simply DCs. Some are more > > equal than others - some are running FSMOs, some are bridgeheads, some > > are GCs. > > > > What they aren't, is synonymous to the terms that were used in the NT > > domain model, and the PDCe role is exactly that - an emulated role, used > > to provide downlevel compatibility, and also to provide a logical place > > where referrals can be sent. > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > > This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the > above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify > the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must > take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part > of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions > contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods > Group Limited or its subsidiaries. Please note that e-mail communications > may be monitored. The Registered Office of Littlewoods Group Limited and its > subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number > of Littlewoods Group Limited is 5059352. > > > ***************************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl - > www.blackspider.com > > ******************************************************** > > This Weeks Sponsor: triCerat Inc. > > You need Day Zero Protection! > > Get Proactive with triCerat's Simplify Suite. > > Solve printing, security and profile problems before they occur. > > http://www.tricerat.com/?thethintl2 > > > ********************************************************** > > Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: > > http://thin.net/links.cfm > > ThinWiki community - Excellent SBC Search Capabilities! > > http://www.thinwiki.com > > > *********************************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > > http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > > > -- Tom at home ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: triCerat Inc. You need Day Zero Protection! Get Proactive with triCerat's Simplify Suite. Solve printing, security and profile problems before they occur. http://www.tricerat.com/?thethintl2 ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm ThinWiki community - Excellent SBC Search Capabilities! http://www.thinwiki.com *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm