Thanks Greg, We tried a linux device, but need an integrated browser to achieve the nfuse evnvironment that we're after. Any thoughts? Bob -----Original Message----- From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: September 23, 2003 9:36 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse to chime in on this. We run a pure thin client environment here. Mostly CE based Winterms, Linux thin clients, and a bunch of CE tablets. the CE devices we have both from Wyse and Boundless (running Neoware software) are a little skittish. The flash gets corrupted too easily and they run into memory problems if you try and do too much with them. There is very little you can do with a CE device that you can't do with a Linux device. All we buy now are Linux based thin clients and they are very solid. They are also cheaper. Depending on what you buy, most of them can be upgraded to CE if you find you don't like the Linux. In my budget request this year was the funds to replace all our CE thin clients with Linux thin clients. I think it will get approved because the CE devices have been a giant pain. I only have 200 devices and I do run a full desktop that is locked down solid and I use mandatory profiles. I have found that the Linux based thin clients work best. But that's me. There are a lot of people on this list who will probably disagree. Try out some units and see for yourself. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:24 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse I have done this (but not for a thousand users) I am also planning one right now for about 600 or so to access this way. Any. The concept with NFuse is simple. Have the CE client launch to anonymous NFuse (published IE). Then the users can sign into that and launch applications. Alternatively you can have a STRIPPED down desktop with a taskbar. From within the desktop they can use NFuse. BUT I have found that often times it is better to give users the ability to run all the apps right from that desktop (even using the passthrough client to launch apps from other silos) But to address your individual questions: Is it possible to achieve a user bombproof environment with nFuse (Web Interface) on CE devices and still maintain the taskbar? Maintaining a taskbar mean giving them a desktop (even if stripped) Bomb proof would mean mandatory profiles with maybe a flex or hybrid mixed in. That is about as close to bomb proof as you can get. BUT any desktop is a hole, never forget that. What are the pitfalls of CE devices, other than the inability to have any local apps?. Not anything you would want to run.... And generally these devices don't have enough CE to do anything other than connect to a server. How was your experience with implementation? Been good in most cases. I don't like giving the user a desktop if I don't have to. If I do I give them mandatory profiles. If they gripe about saving settings I then add in the flex or hybrid profile kit so the admins determine what is saved and not the user. How do users like the environment? Just fine once they get done gripping. You have to find a balance between giving them anything they want and not giving them anything. I found that these are easiest when moving them from older slower machines. Any other comments? Not now. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 815.325.7618 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx> -----Original Message----- From: Higgins, Bob [mailto:BHiggins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:44 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] CE thins and nFuse Hi All, We are looking for feedback from larger environments (1000+ devices) that have done nFuse on CE for their core application delivery. We have achieved a satisfactory, end user secured environment on a stripped down w2k shell on PC's, but it took some add ins (PWB, etc.) to achieve the lock down we desired, but still maintain the necessary functionality (taskbar, etc.). Is it possible to achieve a user bombproof environment with nFuse (Web Interface) on CE devices and still maintain the taskbar? What are the pitfalls of CE devices, other than the inability to have any local apps?. How was your experience with implementation? How do users like the environment? Any other comments? Your feedback is appreciated! Bob Higgins, MCSE Information Systems Server Administrator Chinook Health Region 960 19th Street South Lethbridge, Alberta T1J 1W5 www.chr.ab.ca Phone: (403) 382-6338 Fax: (403) 382 6046 E-mail: bhiggins@xxxxxxxxx