[THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse

  • From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:38:55 -0500

Depends on how you setup IE. I mean do this.....

 

Publish IE now. But setup an ICA file or connection to NOT run in a
seamless window. From there get to yoru NFuse page and launch and app.
Minimize the App and the NFuse page. Notice they show up minimized in
this window. You can do this with CE clients too. The trick is just to
have the user minimize the application. Its no taskbar but it really
depends on how your users work if they really need a task bar.

 

In most cases like this I am dealing with hospitals (doctors and nurses)
and as they run around they really don't need 3 or4 or5 apps open. All
they need is one and sometimes two. So opening and app from a web page
that opens on powerup is a no brainer. If they want two the (savy)
doctors have figured out to minimize one and start the other.

 

Ron Oglesby

Senior Technical Architect

 

RapidApp

Office 312.372.7188

Mobile 815.325.7618

email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Higgins, Bob [mailto:BHiggins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:47 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse

 

Thanks Ron, 

 

If you don't give the users a taskbar, how do you allow them to switch
between applications? The environment we built with w2k was very tight,
all that could run was iexplorer, and then the published apps. The
device auto logs on with a useless local account and launches iexplore
to the nfuse site, and could go nowhere else. Iexplore can not be
closed. The user can do nothing other than log onto the nfuse site, or
turn off the device. The start button is gone, ctrl-alt-del disabled,
all windows shortcuts disabled, but we left the taskbar to allow app
switching. Am I missing a way to do this without the taskbar? Alt-tab is
is not an option for our users. If we can recreate this environment on a
CE device, then life is good. :)

 

Bob 

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: September 23, 2003 9:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CE thins and nFuse

        I have done this (but not for a thousand users) I am also
planning one right now for about 600 or so to access this way.  

         

        Any. The concept with NFuse is simple. Have the CE client launch
to anonymous NFuse (published IE). Then the users can sign into that and
launch applications.

        Alternatively you can have a STRIPPED down desktop with a
taskbar.  From within the desktop they can use NFuse. BUT I have found
that often times it is better to give users the ability to run all the
apps right from that desktop (even using the passthrough client to
launch apps from other silos)

         

        But to address your individual questions:

         

        Is it possible to achieve a user bombproof environment with
nFuse (Web Interface) on CE devices and still maintain the taskbar? 

        Maintaining a taskbar mean giving them a desktop (even if
stripped) Bomb proof would mean mandatory profiles with maybe a flex or
hybrid mixed in. That is about as close to bomb proof as you can get.
BUT any desktop is a hole, never forget that.

        What are the pitfalls of CE devices, other than the inability to
have any local apps?. 

        Not anything you would want to run.... And generally these
devices don't have enough CE to do anything other than connect to a
server.

        How was your experience with implementation? 

        Been good in most cases. I don't like giving the user a desktop
if I don't have to. If I do I give them mandatory profiles. If they
gripe about saving settings I then add in the flex or hybrid profile kit
so the admins determine what is saved and not the user.

        How do users like the environment? 

        Just fine once they get done gripping. You have to find a
balance between giving them anything they want and not giving them
anything. I found that these are easiest when moving them from older
slower machines.

        Any other comments? 

        Not now.

         

         

        Ron Oglesby

        Senior Technical Architect

         

        RapidApp

        Office 312.372.7188

        Mobile 815.325.7618

        email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Higgins, Bob [mailto:BHiggins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:44 AM
        To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
        Subject: [THIN] CE thins and nFuse

         

        Hi All, 

        We are looking for feedback from larger environments (1000+
devices) that have done nFuse on CE for their core application delivery.
We have achieved a satisfactory, end user secured environment on a
stripped down w2k shell on PC's, but it took some add ins (PWB, etc.) to
achieve the lock down we desired, but still maintain the necessary
functionality (taskbar, etc.). 

        Is it possible to achieve a user bombproof environment with
nFuse (Web Interface) on CE devices and still maintain the taskbar? 

        What are the pitfalls of CE devices, other than the inability to
have any local apps?. 

        How was your experience with implementation? 

        How do users like the environment? 

        Any other comments? 

         

        Your feedback is appreciated! 

        Bob Higgins, MCSE 
        Information Systems Server Administrator 
        Chinook Health Region 
        960 19th Street South 
        Lethbridge, Alberta 
        T1J 1W5 
        www.chr.ab.ca 
        Phone: (403) 382-6338 
        Fax: (403) 382 6046 
        E-mail: bhiggins@xxxxxxxxx 

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