Hi Edward I received this email from you in reference to the jctv2704 tv and I am not sure what it means..Can you explain.. Regards Alvin Edward Gaidies wrote: >More then I wanted to know.;-) >Only Bob and I are allowed to talk dirty, as such. >Interesting..though.;-) > >-Ed- >On Aug 4, 2004, at 11:50 PM, Damon wrote: > > > >>Ooops, when you stated base waveform, I thought you meant base as in >>"baseline".....( I rarely check base waveforms), normally they look >>like a >>"raggy" square wave anyways..... >> >>However the collector waveform should be a smooth pulse, about 12uS >>wide, >>anywhere from 1000V to 1100V max on most TVs, probably 80% ride right >>around >>1050V. >> >>The caps can induce a raggy looking collector pulse or heat up a >>transistor >>pretty fast if it's nearly open.....partly open/low value can cause it >>to >>fail like yours is. That 12uS pulse width can point to the problem >>too......more than 12us generally indicates bad IHVT/leaky cap (lowered >>voltage too), less than 11uS would show opening caps.....so the 12uS >>check >>is another tool in our toolbox... >> >>Damon Brunger >>Telrad Electronic Services >>Ft Wayne, IN 46815 >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Alvin Rose" <ajroseca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:18 PM >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: citizen model JCTV2704 chassis M3L523S >> >> >>| Hi Damon >>| I will check the capacitors in the collector circuit >>| and the divider ladder in the pincusion circuit..the waveform >>| I referred to was on the output transistor Base lead >>| would this effect the input to the base lead. >>| Alvin >>| >>| Damon wrote: >>| >>| >You have open or off-value high voltage caps on the collector, you >>may >>also >>| >find bad caps in the pincushion's "divider ladder" . The spikes and >>"square >>| >wave" effect are the indicators. >>| > >>| >Damon Brunger >>| >Telrad Electronic Services >>| >Ft Wayne, IN 46815 >>| >----- Original Message ----- >>| >From: "Alvin Rose" <ajroseca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>| >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>| >Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:40 PM >>| >Subject: [TechAssist] citizen model JCTV2704 chassis M3L523S >>| > >>| > >>| >| Hi Guys >>| >| we have a citizen tv which is shorting the horrizontal output >>| >| transistor..Have replaced it twice..Set will run for half an hour >>| >| and then will short the transistor..Scoped the collector and >>there is >>no >>| >| saddle in the waveform but a small amount of ringing on the >>reference >>| >line. >>| >| The base waveform looks like a modified square wave with a number >>of >>| >| high spikes at the start and finish of the waveform..I replaced >>the 22 >>mfd >>| >| electrolytic in the primary of the driver transformer with no >>improvement. >>| >| Driver transister tests ok..Had anyone had this problem with this >>model >>| >| Your help is appreciated >>| >| Alvin Rose >>| >| Radio & Tv Centre >>| >| Marystown, Nl >>| >| >>| >| >>| >| >>| >| >>| >> >> >>>| >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>--- >>> >>> >>- >>| >--- >>| >| Lost Password: >>| >| http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >>| >| Email Archives: >>| >| //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >>| >| >>| > >>| > >>| >> >> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>----- >>> >>> >>-- >>| >Lost Password: >>| >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >>| >Email Archives: >>| >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >>| > >>| > >>| > >>| >>| >>| >>| >>| >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >>--- >>| Lost Password: >>| http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >>| Email Archives: >>| //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >>| >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>------ >>Lost Password: >>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >>Email Archives: >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> >> >> >Tel-Tek Electronics >Ontario-Canada > >teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lost Password: >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >Email Archives: >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/