Ooops, when you stated base waveform, I thought you meant base as in "baseline".....( I rarely check base waveforms), normally they look like a "raggy" square wave anyways..... However the collector waveform should be a smooth pulse, about 12uS wide, anywhere from 1000V to 1100V max on most TVs, probably 80% ride right around 1050V. The caps can induce a raggy looking collector pulse or heat up a transistor pretty fast if it's nearly open.....partly open/low value can cause it to fail like yours is. That 12uS pulse width can point to the problem too......more than 12us generally indicates bad IHVT/leaky cap (lowered voltage too), less than 11uS would show opening caps.....so the 12uS check is another tool in our toolbox... Damon Brunger Telrad Electronic Services Ft Wayne, IN 46815 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Rose" <ajroseca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: citizen model JCTV2704 chassis M3L523S | Hi Damon | I will check the capacitors in the collector circuit | and the divider ladder in the pincusion circuit..the waveform | I referred to was on the output transistor Base lead | would this effect the input to the base lead. | Alvin | | Damon wrote: | | >You have open or off-value high voltage caps on the collector, you may also | >find bad caps in the pincushion's "divider ladder" . The spikes and "square | >wave" effect are the indicators. | > | >Damon Brunger | >Telrad Electronic Services | >Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | >----- Original Message ----- | >From: "Alvin Rose" <ajroseca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:40 PM | >Subject: [TechAssist] citizen model JCTV2704 chassis M3L523S | > | > | >| Hi Guys | >| we have a citizen tv which is shorting the horrizontal output | >| transistor..Have replaced it twice..Set will run for half an hour | >| and then will short the transistor..Scoped the collector and there is no | >| saddle in the waveform but a small amount of ringing on the reference | >line. | >| The base waveform looks like a modified square wave with a number of | >| high spikes at the start and finish of the waveform..I replaced the 22 mfd | >| electrolytic in the primary of the driver transformer with no improvement. | >| Driver transister tests ok..Had anyone had this problem with this model | >| Your help is appreciated | >| Alvin Rose | >| Radio & Tv Centre | >| Marystown, Nl | >| | >| | >| | >| | >| ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - | >--- | >| Lost Password: | >| http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | >| Email Archives: | >| //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | >| | > | > | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- | >Lost Password: | >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | >Email Archives: | >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > | > | > | | | | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- | Lost Password: | http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | Email Archives: | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/