[TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
- From: "Tech Repair CD support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:48:14 -0400
Bill,
The thing is, are we to assume you messed the subject line up with 'vertical
collapse', or the message body with 'vertical line'?
This is like the posts that have one model in the subject and a different model
with transposed numbers, maybe..which one are we to guess is correct.
You are the one posting for help...you, as well as everyone, should check your
posts before you press send.
Don't get offended, you are not the only guy to make a mistake like this, trust
me, and you won't be the last.
But, we can't help, if you do not have the correct information.
You're lucky it was only 20 lashes...I get twice that when I make a
boo-boo...and
my boo-boo's are remembered for weeks after.
Have a good evening.
Jeff
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill S" <billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:37 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
Hi all
Ummmm
I did goof up and used the incorrect terminology............I'm sorry, I
guessed when the subject line said "Vertical collapse" that it would make
some sense and yes I did screw up in saying it the way I did. My day was
not going the best and with a impending move along the way, my vocabulary
was not doing the right thing.
The twenty lashes upon my fingers and my brain are duly noted..
Thanks to those who did help. It is appreciated...
Bill Sorensen
New Life Video & Audio
billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tech Repair CD support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:33 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
>
> I agree...if you want the proper help, use the proper words.
> A vertical line runs up and down, horizontal left to right.
> If you have vertical collapse, you need not even mention the line.
> I missed most of this thread do to getting cut-off somehow....but on
projections
> with no video, this should be one of the first checks.
> Since projection sets kill the video when there is a problem in the
vertical
> section...so as to not burn the phosphors, you need to gradually increase
the G2
> and watch for the line...as soon as you see the line...turn the G2 back.
> Jeff
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lyles Tv" <tech@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:39 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
>
>
>
> A "vertical line" is NOT a symptom of vertical collapse
> A "horizontal line" is NOT a symptom of horizontal collapse. If you want
to
> change the meaning of words, run for a democrat political office.
>
> Jeff Farnsworth
> Lyles TV and Appliance
> fax 262-723-3658
> tech@xxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:23 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
>
>
> >
> > Don't get this thing started again.It would be vertical collapse, not
> > vertical line.
> > al marquardt
> > ampm@xxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Al Gutz" <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:52 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
> >
> >
> > >
> > > You can have a vert roll, vert jitter or compression so why not a vert
> > > line. All problems caused by a defective vert circuit. Only to the
> > > viewers would this appear to be horz.
> > >
> > > Ed on the south thing, wait until noon and then aim towards the sun.
> > >
> > > Al G
> > >
> > > Ed Gaidies wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary;
> > > > I don't want credit...just makes common sense.
> > > > All Tech's that have serviced TV's are sure to know the
> difference.
> > > > If I put out a search for help, when I say vertical, I mean
vertical.
> > Have
> > > > been know to say vertical line, but then when someone tells me, in
> > > > directions, turn north or south, I would rather have turn left or
> right.
> > > > Farmers always give me those type of directions, on Service
Calls,
> > (turn
> > > > south on the 6th line)..hehe.
> > > >
> > > > -Ed-
> > > >
> > > > GARY The above is the reply to your message dated 8/30/02 8:05
PM
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree! this vertical/horizontal line stuff does seem petty.Ed
has
> > hit it
> > > > > right in the nose!
> > > > > Give him some credit.
> > > > > Gary
> > > > > CHAMBERS TV
> > > > > BRADENTON,FL
> > > > > SINCE 1982
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ed Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 7:19 PM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd
> try
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ken;
> > > > >> Why don't we just call it a Vertical problem, or a horizontal
> > problem,
> > > > >> without describing what the line is showing on the screen.
> > Technicians
> > > > > will
> > > > >> know the difference. We will leave the description of the
> orientation
> > of
> > > > > the
> > > > >> line to our customers. I have to explain this to my customers too
> > often,
> > > > >> over the phone. So on a forum such as this, it will certainly
weed
> > out the
> > > > >> professionals from the novice.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -Ed-
> > > > >> Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > >> Midland, Ontario
> > > > >> Canada.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> teltek@xxxxxxx
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Quality will be remembered....long after Price is forgotten"
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> gulftech@xxxxxxxx The above is the reply to your message dated
> > 8/30/02
> > > > >> 7:06 PM
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Bill,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I mean no offense, but please clarify. You said " When we
> increase
> > one
> > > > >>> of the screens, a vertical line will come up." Don't you mean a
> > > > >>> horizontal line? We have been through the vertical/horizontal
> > > > > discussion
> > > > >>> before. I had a tech working for me for years that would call
the
> > > > >>> resultant from vertical collapse "A vertical line." Drove me
> crazy!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Check the B+ to the output chip. See if it drops off. Also,
> change
> > the
> > > > >>> diode next to the chip. An NTE125 will work fine there.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> One other thought. Try some cold spray on the jungle IC. You
may
> > be
> > > > >>> losing drive to the output.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Good luck,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Ken Smith
> > > > >>> Gulf Technical Services
> > > > >>> 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > > > >>> Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
> > > > >>> 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:42:04 -0700 "Bill S"
<billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>> writes:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Hi again
> > > > >>>> as per the message yesterday, We replaced the Vertical IC 401
> and
> > > > >>>> checked
> > > > >>>> the vertical yoke plug. The picture will play for a bit and
then
> > > > >>>> goes out.
> > > > >>>> When we increase one of the screens, a vertical line will come
> up.
> > > > >>>> The
> > > > >>>> vertical IC chip is a LA7845. Any other ideas?? Where is C
286
> > > > >>>> located
> > > > >>>> at??
> > > > >>>> Many thanks
> > > > >>>> Bill Sorensen
> > > > >>>> New Life Video & Audio
> > > > >>>> billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> From: "Bill S" <billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:59 PM
> > > > >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hi all
> > > > >>>>> We got this unit in for a no picture sympton. It would play
for
> a
> > > > >>>> while
> > > > >>>> and
> > > > >>>>> then lines through the picture and then no picture. The
> customer
> > > > >>>> hit the
> > > > >>>>> set and it would come back on. Upon checking the unit, We
found
> > > > >>>> that the
> > > > >>>>> vertical had collapsed. This was a housecall of many miles
away
> > > > >>>> and the
> > > > >>>>> customer had originally said that it was an RCA and we only
> > > > >>>> brought the
> > > > >>>> RCA
> > > > >>>>> stuff for a CTC169 fix. Anyway, We will be going back. Does
> > > > >>>> anyone know
> > > > >>>>> the location number as well as the part number of the vertical
> > > > >>>> chip and if
> > > > >>>>> there are any upgrades on this thing? The help is greatly
> > > > >>>> appreciated!!
> > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>>> Bill Sorensen
> > > > >>>>> New Life Video & Audio
> > > > >>>>> billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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