[TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
- From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:48:44 -0400
Time to change the subject...this is getting redundant now. All techs will
understand what is meant, without going to these details.
-Ed-
Tel-Tek Electronics
Midland, Ontario
Canada.
teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lyles Tv" <tech@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
>
> A "vertical line" is NOT a symptom of vertical collapse
> A "horizontal line" is NOT a symptom of horizontal collapse. If you want
to
> change the meaning of words, run for a democrat political office.
>
> Jeff Farnsworth
> Lyles TV and Appliance
> fax 262-723-3658
> tech@xxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:23 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
>
>
> >
> > Don't get this thing started again.It would be vertical collapse, not
> > vertical line.
> > al marquardt
> > ampm@xxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Al Gutz" <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:52 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd try
> >
> >
> > >
> > > You can have a vert roll, vert jitter or compression so why not a vert
> > > line. All problems caused by a defective vert circuit. Only to the
> > > viewers would this appear to be horz.
> > >
> > > Ed on the south thing, wait until noon and then aim towards the sun.
> > >
> > > Al G
> > >
> > > Ed Gaidies wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary;
> > > > I don't want credit...just makes common sense.
> > > > All Tech's that have serviced TV's are sure to know the
> difference.
> > > > If I put out a search for help, when I say vertical, I mean
vertical.
> > Have
> > > > been know to say vertical line, but then when someone tells me, in
> > > > directions, turn north or south, I would rather have turn left or
> right.
> > > > Farmers always give me those type of directions, on Service
Calls,
> > (turn
> > > > south on the 6th line)..hehe.
> > > >
> > > > -Ed-
> > > >
> > > > GARY The above is the reply to your message dated 8/30/02 8:05
PM
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree! this vertical/horizontal line stuff does seem petty.Ed
has
> > hit it
> > > > > right in the nose!
> > > > > Give him some credit.
> > > > > Gary
> > > > > CHAMBERS TV
> > > > > BRADENTON,FL
> > > > > SINCE 1982
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ed Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 7:19 PM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse 2nd
> try
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ken;
> > > > >> Why don't we just call it a Vertical problem, or a horizontal
> > problem,
> > > > >> without describing what the line is showing on the screen.
> > Technicians
> > > > > will
> > > > >> know the difference. We will leave the description of the
> orientation
> > of
> > > > > the
> > > > >> line to our customers. I have to explain this to my customers too
> > often,
> > > > >> over the phone. So on a forum such as this, it will certainly
weed
> > out the
> > > > >> professionals from the novice.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -Ed-
> > > > >> Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > >> Midland, Ontario
> > > > >> Canada.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> teltek@xxxxxxx
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Quality will be remembered....long after Price is forgotten"
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> gulftech@xxxxxxxx The above is the reply to your message dated
> > 8/30/02
> > > > >> 7:06 PM
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Bill,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I mean no offense, but please clarify. You said " When we
> increase
> > one
> > > > >>> of the screens, a vertical line will come up." Don't you mean a
> > > > >>> horizontal line? We have been through the vertical/horizontal
> > > > > discussion
> > > > >>> before. I had a tech working for me for years that would call
the
> > > > >>> resultant from vertical collapse "A vertical line." Drove me
> crazy!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Check the B+ to the output chip. See if it drops off. Also,
> change
> > the
> > > > >>> diode next to the chip. An NTE125 will work fine there.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> One other thought. Try some cold spray on the jungle IC. You
may
> > be
> > > > >>> losing drive to the output.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Good luck,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Ken Smith
> > > > >>> Gulf Technical Services
> > > > >>> 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > > > >>> Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
> > > > >>> 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:42:04 -0700 "Bill S"
<billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>> writes:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Hi again
> > > > >>>> as per the message yesterday, We replaced the Vertical IC 401
> and
> > > > >>>> checked
> > > > >>>> the vertical yoke plug. The picture will play for a bit and
then
> > > > >>>> goes out.
> > > > >>>> When we increase one of the screens, a vertical line will come
> up.
> > > > >>>> The
> > > > >>>> vertical IC chip is a LA7845. Any other ideas?? Where is C
286
> > > > >>>> located
> > > > >>>> at??
> > > > >>>> Many thanks
> > > > >>>> Bill Sorensen
> > > > >>>> New Life Video & Audio
> > > > >>>> billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> From: "Bill S" <billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:59 PM
> > > > >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Mitibushi VS 4544 Vertical collapse
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hi all
> > > > >>>>> We got this unit in for a no picture sympton. It would play
for
> a
> > > > >>>> while
> > > > >>>> and
> > > > >>>>> then lines through the picture and then no picture. The
> customer
> > > > >>>> hit the
> > > > >>>>> set and it would come back on. Upon checking the unit, We
found
> > > > >>>> that the
> > > > >>>>> vertical had collapsed. This was a housecall of many miles
away
> > > > >>>> and the
> > > > >>>>> customer had originally said that it was an RCA and we only
> > > > >>>> brought the
> > > > >>>> RCA
> > > > >>>>> stuff for a CTC169 fix. Anyway, We will be going back. Does
> > > > >>>> anyone know
> > > > >>>>> the location number as well as the part number of the vertical
> > > > >>>> chip and if
> > > > >>>>> there are any upgrades on this thing? The help is greatly
> > > > >>>> appreciated!!
> > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>>> Bill Sorensen
> > > > >>>>> New Life Video & Audio
> > > > >>>>> billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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