I do too. But my statement stands. I was not able to run a business when the replacement cost of the items we serviced fell below $300. At that time our average repair charge was about $75. I had well-paid competent techs, company paid health insurance, a company paid pension plan, about 4 weeks a year of paid time off, ASC contracts with about 50 brands. Thats all gone now and so are they. Its not a business anymore. Its just a hobby. Keeps me from staying home and making a pest out of myself. Jerry Silverman Greentron Inc 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:51 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Magnavox 20MS233S, no or very little sound > Perhaps in your neck of the woods. > I repair many items that can be replaced for less than $300. > Jeff > -- > Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair > 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 > 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:46 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Magnavox 20MS233S, no or very little sound > > > Its good to be capable of changing surface mount components, but its almost > impossible to operate a business fixing things that can be replaced for less > than $300. > Jerry Silverman > Greentron Inc > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 > 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 > greentron@xxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 5:58 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Magnavox 20MS233S, no or very little sound > > > > You need to use ChipQuik to remove the old chip,and to install the new > one. > > It's really quite easy with ChipQuik. > > There is a flux type substance that you put on all the pins of the old > chip. > > It's applied with a syringe.Then there is a special solder that is used > > that stays > > in a molten state long enough to remove the chip. > > No cutting pins,no damage to the Traces/foil pads. > > Clean up the area,I use q-tips and chemtronics 2000 degreaser. > > Next Tack the new chip in by soldering one or two pins(corners). > > Then apply the flux type substance again to all the pins,and resolder. > > Don't worry about trying to do one pin at a time,as the flux helps keep > > each pin's solder away from each other. > > > > Practiced on an old board first.Remove a chip,clean it up,and reinstall > it. > > You'll see it's much easier than you think. > > > > I charged $95 to repair the set I did a week or so ago. > > > > Peggs > > > > At 08:38 AM 5/26/04, daryls_tv@xxxxxxx wrote: > > >Thanks to Dave Huston, Peggs, and Jeff D. for the help. The trouble > > >strongly points to the 64 pin postage stamp IC (IC7000). > > >I now have a couple of other questions or so .... > > >In the past when I suspected a postage stamp IC to be defective, I > > >informed the customer of the usually high cost of the IC and the > > >labor. All have always declined the estimate and purchased a new > > >replacement set. Now with this set being almost new, it is going to be a > > >bit touchy to tell the customer to buy a new set. > > >Next question... If the customer opts to have the set repaired, how do > you > > >go about changing such an item? The foil is so small and fragile > looking, > > >I would suspect that he foil can be damage quite easily, not to mention > > >trying to work in such close tolerances with respect to the tiny pins. I > > >figure a starting point would be to cut the pins to remove and unsolder > > >the pins very carefully. > > >Now for the final question... Is the set really worth the time and > > >expense? A new set at Office Max was advertised over the weekend for $79 > > >after the rebates. I figure the parts and labor will run more than that > > >provided I am successful in doing the micro surgery. I guess I may have > > >to change my MOS to read "brain surgery while you wait" :-). > > >Daryl > > >Daryl's TV > > >2402 Wyoming Ave. > > >El Paso, TX 79903 > > >daryls_tv@xxxxxxx > > >www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: daryls_tv@xxxxxxx > > >Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:20:14 -0600 > > >To: TechAssist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Magnavox 20MS233S, no or very little sound > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > This Magnavox, model 20MS233S, mfg. 7/2003, has very little sound on > > > some channels an no sound on some. The stations that are broadcasting > > > stereo displays "mono" on the screen. The audio jacks work and the > > > volume bar also functions. I have ESR'd the electro's, looked for open > > > resistors and poor connections.... none found to be the problem. I did > > > find a service manual listed but $50 plus S/H is out of the question > plus > > > the repairs. This set will not justify those kind of expenses. I > should > > > go buy a new set at $79 and tell the customer I repaired it and collect > > > the money. However, I don't think the customer is that gullible. > > > > Any help or advice would be appreciated to save this repair. > > > > Daryl > > > > Daryl's TV > > > > 2402 Wyoming Ave. > > > > El Paso, TX 79903 > > > > daryls_tv@xxxxxxx > > > > www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > > > > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > > Lost Password: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > Email Archives: > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >___________________________________________________________ > > >Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > > >http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > >Lost Password: > > >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >Email Archives: > > >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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