Thanks for this Phil, They do quote the FOIA in order to 'encourage' you to fill in their= 'questionnaire' - I was going to have a word with our FOIA officer and see= if we might get a tenner out of the CCTV inspectorate for the privilege of= doing so! Simon -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Philip Selvidge Sent: 15 September 2006 15:50 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Re: CCTV - Data compliance The CCTV inspectorate is very well known in security circles. They are in= effect selling training in something that is not required. =0D Their letter at first glance appears to be from a Government Organisation,= and at second glance you may want to ignore it, but please be aware that= they normally make their request under FOIA so your Authority may choose= to answer it. =0D We did but not exacly helpfully. =0D I repeat below a series of answers that have been suggested by the= Information Commissioner as being appropriate. =0D Contact me direct for further info =0D philip.selvidge(AT)leicester.gov.uk =0D Regards =0D Phil =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------ Advice from the Information Commissioner given to the Public CCTV Managers= Association ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------ =0D "I have today spoken to Jonathan Bamford, the Assistant Information Commissioner and the conclusions are as follows. =0D The company called CCTV Inspectorate and CCTV Data Compliance Inspectorate has no relationship with the Information Commissioner's Office. They have no Official backing of any sort and they are not 'inspecting' in any official capacity. =0D As a result of communication between the Commissioner's Office and the company concerned, they have now removed the FAQ's section from the mailshot they have been sending out. =0D With regard to the questionnaire, the company (and /or Mr Johnson), has the right, like anyone else, to make a request under the Freedom of Information Act (FOI Act). You are obliged to respond within working 20 days. You do however, only have to supply information that is 'held' by your Authority. This may vary from authority to authority. You do not have to supply personal data that may be protected under the Data Protection Act if to do so would breach a DP principle, although if you have already made that information public (on your web site for instance), it is unlikely that this would be the case. =0D It is up to authorities to make sure that they discharge their FOIA 2000 obligations correctly. However, you may want to answer the questionnaire in a format similar to the below example, please bear in mind that he is asking the Authority and not just the Town centre systems, so you may have to consult with other departments to establish exactly how many systems the Authority owns/ manages or controls. =0D 1. The X Local Authority has X number of sites with CCTV =0D 2.. With this question you may want to be specific, . The Authority has X systems =0D 3. No need to enter contact details if this is 'Personal Data' and would breach the DPA to release it. However if these are already available through other means this is unlikely. XXX CCTV Ltd, etc. =0D 4. Answer Yes or No =0D =0D 5. Enter company details (if applicable) =0D 6. I hope you can answer yes to this! =0D 7. Enter the post name here. If the name of the post holder is published elsewhere it would be necessary to enter the name as well. =0D 8. You should be able to answer yes to this. =0D 9. The Authority does not hold information with regard to this question. =0D 10. The Authority does not hold information with regard to this question. =0D 11. No. =0D The above information is provided under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. The information provided to you must not be used in any way that might imply that this Authority is anyway connected with or approves of your business or its practices. The information provided does not give an invite to your or any other organisation or company to approach the Authority with offers of business services or proposals." =0D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dend >>> Simon.Parrett@xxxxxxxxxxx 15/09/2006 14:32 >>> Dear all, Just received a letter from a company calling themselves "The CCTV Data=3D Compliance Inspectorate" offering the services of one of their=3D 'inspectors' with regard to our compliance under the Data Protection Act.= =3D =3D0D Being of a suspicious nature I have checked with the Information=3D Commissioner - who confirm that 'Bogus Agencies' do operate 'scams' of=3D this nature and whilst not strictly illegal, since they offer a service of= =3D sorts, they do have concerns about how they represent themselves in their= =3D advertisements. 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