[tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
- From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
The Italians, French and English all tried to outdo each other on which could
build the absolute worst car in the world. They were successful til the Rabbit
came along.
--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 3:20 PM
Mine were all gas...sad thing was, those three weeks or so they ran, they were
GREAT...kinda like a Fiat X19 I owned for a short while. Run like a bat outta
hell WHEN it ran....Damned electrical issues once again...
--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 3:00 PM
> The diesels were
> great!
>
>
> -- Sent from my
> Palm Pre
> Neil wrote:
>
> No, just a lot of crappy cars. I've owned 4 or 5 over
> the years. Then I quit drinkin', sobered up and have
> never owned a Rabbit since.
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 8/21/09, sammie smith
> <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: sammie smith
> <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official
> figures
>
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 2:02 PM
>
> > Is
>
> > that called a "hutch" or a
> "gaggle?"
>
> >
>
> > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Will
>
> > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official
> figures
>
> > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>
> > <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 11:49 AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I don't
>
> > know about that. I recall having 5 Rabbits in the 90s.
>
> > One or two at a time that ran and the others for
>
> > parts.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > So does 5 make a collection?
>
> >
>
> > :-)
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > sammie smith wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Well how many old Hondas and Toyotas do
>
> > you see? Those 70s 80s "economy" cars will
>
> > probably never be collectible and will never have the
> status
>
> > of the aircooled VW.
>
> >
>
> > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, w.wood
>
> > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official
> figures
>
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 10:45 AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Wow, my Eurovans did better than
>
> > that. I can honestly say I've never owned a
>
> > Vanagon. I would like a Doka Synchro but that's
>
> > about as far as I'd go with it. Regrettably
>
> > we'll lose and continue to lose more Vanagons and
> Bays
>
> > and Splits because of neglect and nuisance laws more
> than
>
> > the CARS program promotes.
>
> >
>
> > What's strange is...
>
> >
>
> > Do you ever see any Dashers? Sciroccos? Rabbits
>
> > (except cabriolets)?
>
> >
>
> > It seems like a lot of the A1 and A2 series just
>
> > disappeared. Maybe it was that Pennsylvanian Sheet
>
> > Metal? I have to believe that a Rabbit may be more
>
> > rare than a split bus.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM,
>
> > a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Will is
>
> > right. More folks need to check their facts before
>
> > saying something...
>
> >
>
> > Per the feds "official" mileage figures,
> it's
>
> > 15 mpg for a '91 Vanagon with auto and 2WD. 4
> speed
>
> > manual is 17 mpg. It was 15/16 in '84 - the oldest
> year
>
> > eligible - and was as low as 14/15 in 1986. Synchros
> in
>
> > '86 also got 14. Best I've ever done was 16
> or
>
> > so but I'm no hypermiler.
>
> >
>
> > Read 'em weep:
>
> >
>
> >
> http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsResult1.jsp?column=1&id=8422
>
> >
>
> > I hope we don't lose any Vanagons to this program,
> but
>
> > feel sure we will.
>
> >
>
> > (Personally, I think Denis is just jealous that HE
>
> > didn't get a letter for Murray...
>
> > But as penance for my political misstep I will be
> hosting
>
> > the "cum-by-ya"
>
> > sing-a-long at T@P6. If Denis will co-host with
>
> > me...)
>
> >
>
> > Allan
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message ----
>
> > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:46:10 PM
>
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...
>
> >
>
> > It don't matter what it gets it matters what the
> est
>
> > mpg when it was new..
>
> >
>
> > Edward Maikranz wrote:
>
> > > Mine sure doesnt.
>
> > > 87 with a 2.1 gets 17-19
>
> > >
>
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, sammie smith
>
> > > <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > Everyone is talking about the Vanagon
>
> > qualifying for the CARS
>
> > > program. How? You have to
>
> > have less than 18mpg combined mileage
>
> > > via EPA estimates. Do those things
>
> > not get 18mpg?
>
> > >
>
> > > --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, a riggs
> /<redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>
> > > <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>/*
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > From: a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>
> > <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>
>
> > >
>
> > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult
>
> > to injury...
>
> > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > > Date: Thursday, August 20,
>
> > 2009, 2:45 PM
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Gee, I thought Mr. Obama
>
> > was my friend and since he knows
>
> > > what's best for me I
>
> > guess I'll turn my Vanagon in. They told
>
> > > me it would to a happy
>
> > place. And this way your tax dollars
>
> > > can help me buy a new
>
> > green
>
> > pablum car and keep it full of gas
>
> > > and...
>
> > >
>
> > > Thank you Obama.
>
> > Thank you Lady Bird. Thank you FDR...
>
> > >
>
> > > LIKE HELL!
>
> > They'll pry it from my cold dead hands!
>
> > (Unless
>
> > > someone gives me some good
>
> > ol' cash for it ;-) )
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > *From:* w.wood
> <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>
> > >
> <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>
>
> > > *To:*
>
> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August
>
> > 20, 2009 10:08:03 AM
>
> > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re:
>
> > Insult to injury...
>
> > >
>
> > > I blame Lady Bird
>
> > Johnson...
>
> > >
>
> > > She made getting rid of
>
> > old cars popular with "Keep America
>
> > > Beautiful." You
>
> > remember with the fake indian? Iron Eyes
>
> > > Cody who was Italian.
>
> > >
>
> > > Just like a government run
>
> > program, full of mis-information
>
> > > and lies.
>
> > >
>
> > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19732051/
>
> > >
>
> > >
> http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/ironeyes.asp
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at
>
> > 10:20 AM, Edward Aragon
>
> > > <edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > >
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > I saw a
>
> > early model Eurovan MV on the clunker lot at
>
> > >
>
> > Premier Mazda wish I
>
> > > had a chance
>
> > to get it. RIP our good friend....
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > --Edward Aragon
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > > From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > >
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > >
> [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > >
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]On
>
> > > Behalf Of a
>
> > riggs
>
> > > Sent:
>
> > Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:36 AM
>
> > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > >
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > > Subject:
>
> > [tcb] Insult to injury...
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Got a letter from a car dealer
>
> > yesterday...
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > "Congratulations! Your 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon
>
> > qualifies
>
> > > for the Cash
>
> > for
>
> > > Clunkers
>
> > program..."
>
> > >
>
> > > I wonder how
>
> > many will be lost to this program...
>
> > >
>
> > > Allan
>
> > > '71
>
> > panel - FOR SALE
>
> > > '91
>
> > Vanagon Carat - FOR SALE
>
> > > '71 Ghia
>
> > coupe
>
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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