[tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures

  • From: "Will" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:00:17 -0400

The diesels were great!  


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Neil wrote:

No, just a lot of crappy cars.   I've owned 4 or 5 over the years.  Then I quit 
drinkin', sobered up and have never owned a Rabbit since.



--- On Fri, 8/21/09, sammie smith &lt;bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



> From: sammie smith &lt;bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures

> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 2:02 PM

> Is

> that called a "hutch" or a "gaggle?"

> 

> --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Will

> &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 

> 

> From: Will &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>

> Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures

> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"

> &lt;tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 11:49 AM

> 

> 

> I don't

> know about that. I recall having 5 Rabbits in the 90s.

>  One or two at a time that ran and the others for

> parts.

> 

> 

> 

> So does 5 make a collection?

> 

> :-)

> 

> 

> -- Sent from my Palm Pre

> 

> 

> sammie smith wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Well how many old Hondas and Toyotas do

> you see?  Those 70s 80s "economy" cars will

> probably never be collectible and will never have the status

> of the aircooled VW.

> 

> --- On Fri, 8/21/09, w.wood

> &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 

> 

> From: w.wood &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>

> Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures

> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 10:45 AM

> 

> 

> Wow, my Eurovans did better than

> that.  I can honestly say I've never owned a

> Vanagon.  I would like a Doka Synchro but that's

> about as far as I'd go with it.  Regrettably

> we'll lose and continue to lose more Vanagons and Bays

> and Splits because of neglect and nuisance laws more than

> the CARS program promotes.  

> 

> What's strange is...

> 

> Do you ever see any Dashers?  Sciroccos? Rabbits

> (except cabriolets)?

> 

> It seems like a lot of the A1 and A2 series just

> disappeared.  Maybe it was that Pennsylvanian Sheet

> Metal?  I have to believe that a Rabbit may be more

> rare than a split bus.  

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM,

> a riggs &lt;redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

> 

> Will is

> right.  More folks need to check their facts before

> saying something...

> 

> Per the feds "official" mileage figures, it's

> 15 mpg for a '91 Vanagon with auto and 2WD. 4 speed

> manual is 17 mpg. It was 15/16 in '84 - the oldest year

> eligible - and was as low as 14/15 in 1986. Synchros in

> '86 also got 14.  Best I've ever done was 16 or

> so but I'm no hypermiler.

> 

> Read 'em weep:

> 

> http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsResult1.jsp?column=1&amp;id=8422

> 

> I hope we don't lose any Vanagons to this program, but

> feel sure we will.

> 

> (Personally, I think Denis is just jealous that HE

> didn't get a letter for Murray...

> But as penance for my political misstep I will be hosting

> the "cum-by-ya"

>  sing-a-long at T@P6.  If Denis will co-host with

> me...)

> 

> Allan

> 

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Mike Hayes &lt;mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:46:10 PM

> Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...

> 

> It don't matter what it gets it matters what the est

> mpg when it was new..

> 

> Edward Maikranz wrote:

> > Mine sure doesnt.

> > 87 with a 2.1 gets 17-19

> >

> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, sammie smith

> > &lt;bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> &lt;mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

> > wrote:

> >

> >     Everyone is talking about the Vanagon

> qualifying for the CARS

> >     program.  How?  You have to

> have less than 18mpg combined mileage

> >     via EPA estimates.  Do those things

> not get 18mpg?

> >

> >     --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, a riggs /&lt;redvan71@xxxxxxxxx

> >     &lt;mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>/*

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >         From: a riggs &lt;redvan71@xxxxxxxxx

> &lt;mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>

> >

> >         Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult

> to injury...

> >         To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> &lt;mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> >         Date: Thursday, August 20,

> 2009, 2:45 PM

> >

> >

> >         Gee, I thought Mr. Obama

> was my friend and since he knows

> >         what's best for me I

> guess I'll turn my Vanagon in.  They told

> >         me it would to a happy

> place.  And this way your tax dollars

> >         can help me buy a new

> green

>  pablum car and keep it full of gas

> >         and...

> >

> >         Thank you Obama.

>  Thank you Lady Bird.  Thank you FDR...

> >

> >         LIKE HELL!

>  They'll pry it from my cold dead hands!

>  (Unless

> >         someone gives me some good

> ol' cash for it  ;-)  )

> >

> >

> >        

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >         *From:* w.wood &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx

> >         &lt;mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>

> >         *To:*

>  tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> &lt;mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> >         *Sent:* Thursday, August

> 20, 2009 10:08:03 AM

> >         *Subject:* [tcb] Re:

> Insult to injury...

> >

> >         I blame Lady Bird

> Johnson...

> >

> >         She made getting rid of

> old cars popular with "Keep America

> >         Beautiful."  You

> remember with the fake indian?  Iron Eyes

> >         Cody who was Italian.

> >

> >         Just like a government run

> program, full of mis-information

> >         and lies.

> >

> >         http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19732051/

> >

> >         http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/ironeyes.asp

> >

> >

> >

> >         On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at

> 10:20 AM, Edward Aragon

> >         &lt;edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> >         
> > &lt;http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

> >         wrote:

> >

> >             I saw a

> early model Eurovan MV on the clunker lot at

> >  

>            Premier Mazda wish I

> >             had a chance

> to get it. RIP our good friend....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >            

>  --Edward Aragon

> >

> >            

> -----Original Message-----

> >             From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> >             
> > &lt;http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> >             [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> >             
> > &lt;http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]On

> >             Behalf Of a

> riggs

> >             Sent:

> Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:36 AM

> >             To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> >             
> > &lt;http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> >             Subject:

> [tcb] Insult to injury...

> >

> >

> >    

>          Got a letter from a car dealer

>  yesterday...

> >

> >            

> "Congratulations!  Your 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon

> qualifies

> >             for the Cash

> for

> >             Clunkers

> program..."

> >

> >             I wonder how

> many will be lost to this program...

> >

> >             Allan

> >             '71

> panel - FOR SALE

> >             '91

> Vanagon Carat - FOR SALE

> >             '71 Ghia

> coupe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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