The diesels were great! -- Sent from my Palm Pre Neil wrote: No, just a lot of crappy cars. I've owned 4 or 5 over the years. Then I quit drinkin', sobered up and have never owned a Rabbit since. --- On Fri, 8/21/09, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 2:02 PM > Is > that called a "hutch" or a "gaggle?" > > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Will > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" > <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 11:49 AM > > > I don't > know about that. I recall having 5 Rabbits in the 90s. > One or two at a time that ran and the others for > parts. > > > > So does 5 make a collection? > > :-) > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > > > sammie smith wrote: > > > > > > Well how many old Hondas and Toyotas do > you see? Those 70s 80s "economy" cars will > probably never be collectible and will never have the status > of the aircooled VW. > > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, w.wood > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 10:45 AM > > > Wow, my Eurovans did better than > that. I can honestly say I've never owned a > Vanagon. I would like a Doka Synchro but that's > about as far as I'd go with it. Regrettably > we'll lose and continue to lose more Vanagons and Bays > and Splits because of neglect and nuisance laws more than > the CARS program promotes. > > What's strange is... > > Do you ever see any Dashers? Sciroccos? Rabbits > (except cabriolets)? > > It seems like a lot of the A1 and A2 series just > disappeared. Maybe it was that Pennsylvanian Sheet > Metal? I have to believe that a Rabbit may be more > rare than a split bus. > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM, > a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Will is > right. More folks need to check their facts before > saying something... > > Per the feds "official" mileage figures, it's > 15 mpg for a '91 Vanagon with auto and 2WD. 4 speed > manual is 17 mpg. It was 15/16 in '84 - the oldest year > eligible - and was as low as 14/15 in 1986. Synchros in > '86 also got 14. Best I've ever done was 16 or > so but I'm no hypermiler. > > Read 'em weep: > > http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsResult1.jsp?column=1&id=8422 > > I hope we don't lose any Vanagons to this program, but > feel sure we will. > > (Personally, I think Denis is just jealous that HE > didn't get a letter for Murray... > But as penance for my political misstep I will be hosting > the "cum-by-ya" > sing-a-long at T@P6. If Denis will co-host with > me...) > > Allan > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:46:10 PM > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... > > It don't matter what it gets it matters what the est > mpg when it was new.. > > Edward Maikranz wrote: > > Mine sure doesnt. > > 87 with a 2.1 gets 17-19 > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, sammie smith > > <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > wrote: > > > > Everyone is talking about the Vanagon > qualifying for the CARS > > program. How? You have to > have less than 18mpg combined mileage > > via EPA estimates. Do those things > not get 18mpg? > > > > --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, a riggs /<redvan71@xxxxxxxxx > > <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>/* > wrote: > > > > > > From: a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx > <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult > to injury... > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Thursday, August 20, > 2009, 2:45 PM > > > > > > Gee, I thought Mr. Obama > was my friend and since he knows > > what's best for me I > guess I'll turn my Vanagon in. They told > > me it would to a happy > place. And this way your tax dollars > > can help me buy a new > green > pablum car and keep it full of gas > > and... > > > > Thank you Obama. > Thank you Lady Bird. Thank you FDR... > > > > LIKE HELL! > They'll pry it from my cold dead hands! > (Unless > > someone gives me some good > ol' cash for it ;-) ) > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx > > <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>> > > *To:* > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August > 20, 2009 10:08:03 AM > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re: > Insult to injury... > > > > I blame Lady Bird > Johnson... > > > > She made getting rid of > old cars popular with "Keep America > > Beautiful." You > remember with the fake indian? Iron Eyes > > Cody who was Italian. > > > > Just like a government run > program, full of mis-information > > and lies. > > > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19732051/ > > > > http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/ironeyes.asp > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at > 10:20 AM, Edward Aragon > > <edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > wrote: > > > > I saw a > early model Eurovan MV on the clunker lot at > > > Premier Mazda wish I > > had a chance > to get it. RIP our good friend.... > > > > > > > > > > > --Edward Aragon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]On > > Behalf Of a > riggs > > Sent: > Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:36 AM > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: > [tcb] Insult to injury... > > > > > > > Got a letter from a car dealer > yesterday... > > > > > "Congratulations! Your 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon > qualifies > > for the Cash > for > > Clunkers > program..." > > > > I wonder how > many will be lost to this program... > > > > Allan > > '71 > panel - FOR SALE > > '91 > Vanagon Carat - FOR SALE > > '71 Ghia > coupe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > My Email Moniker > > http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,1570570433.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > My Email Moniker > http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,1570570433.aspx > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com