[tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures

Well how many old Hondas and Toyotas do you see?  Those 70s 80s "economy" cars 
will probably never be collectible and will never have the status of the 
aircooled VW.

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 10:45 AM


Wow, my Eurovans did better than that.  I can honestly say I've never owned a 
Vanagon.  I would like a Doka Synchro but that's about as far as I'd go with 
it.  Regrettably we'll lose and continue to lose more Vanagons and Bays and 
Splits because of neglect and nuisance laws more than the CARS program 
promotes.  

What's strange is...

Do you ever see any Dashers?  Sciroccos? Rabbits (except cabriolets)?

It seems like a lot of the A1 and A2 series just disappeared.  Maybe it was 
that Pennsylvanian Sheet Metal?  I have to believe that a Rabbit may be more 
rare than a split bus.  





On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM, a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Will is right.  More folks need to check their facts before saying something...

Per the feds "official" mileage figures, it's 15 mpg for a '91 Vanagon with 
auto and 2WD. 4 speed manual is 17 mpg. It was 15/16 in '84 - the oldest year 
eligible - and was as low as 14/15 in 1986. Synchros in '86 also got 14.  Best 
I've ever done was 16 or so but I'm no hypermiler.

Read 'em weep:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsResult1.jsp?column=1&id=8422

I hope we don't lose any Vanagons to this program, but feel sure we will.

(Personally, I think Denis is just jealous that HE didn't get a letter for 
Murray...
But as penance for my political misstep I will be hosting
the "cum-by-ya" sing-a-long at T@P6.  If Denis will co-host with me...)

Allan



----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:46:10 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...

It don't matter what it gets it matters what the est mpg when it was new..

Edward Maikranz wrote:
> Mine sure doesnt.
> 87 with a 2.1 gets 17-19
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, sammie smith
> <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
>
>     Everyone is talking about the Vanagon qualifying for the CARS
>     program.  How?  You have to have less than 18mpg combined mileage
>     via EPA estimates.  Do those things not get 18mpg?
>
>     --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, a riggs /<redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>
>
>         Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...
>         To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 2:45 PM
>
>
>         Gee, I thought Mr. Obama was my friend and since he knows
>         what's best for me I guess I'll turn my Vanagon in.  They told
>         me it would to a happy place.  And this way your tax dollars
>         can help me buy a new green pablum car and keep it full of gas
>         and...
>
>         Thank you Obama.  Thank you Lady Bird.  Thank you FDR...
>
>         LIKE HELL!  They'll pry it from my cold dead hands!  (Unless
>         someone gives me some good ol' cash for it  ;-)  )
>
>
>         
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         *From:* w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>
>         *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:08:03 AM
>         *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...
>
>         I blame Lady Bird Johnson...
>
>         She made getting rid of old cars popular with "Keep America
>         Beautiful."  You remember with the fake indian?  Iron Eyes
>         Cody who was Italian.
>
>         Just like a government run program, full of mis-information
>         and lies.
>
>         http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19732051/
>
>         http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/ironeyes.asp
>
>
>
>         On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Edward Aragon
>         <edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>         wrote:
>
>             I saw a early model Eurovan MV on the clunker lot at
>             Premier Mazda wish I
>             had a chance to get it. RIP our good friend....
>
>
>
>
>              --Edward Aragon
>
>             -----Original Message-----
>             From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>             
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>             [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>             
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]On
>             Behalf Of a riggs
>             Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:36 AM
>             To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>             <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>             Subject: [tcb] Insult to injury...
>
>
>             Got a letter from a car dealer  yesterday...
>
>             "Congratulations!  Your 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon qualifies
>             for the Cash for
>             Clunkers program..."
>
>             I wonder how many will be lost to this program...
>
>             Allan
>             '71 panel - FOR SALE
>             '91 Vanagon Carat - FOR SALE
>             '71 Ghia coupe
>
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