Hvala ti puno, Gradimire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gradimir Kragic" <bastono@xxxxxxxx> To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:33 AM Subject: [slikom] Research It > > > Zdravo Igore, > > Ova JAWS alatka se zove: "Research It". JAWS za Englesko Engleski > riječnik koristi: "Wiktionary" a to je opcija koja omogućava da tražiš u > online rječniku definiciju neke riječi ili fraze. Uradi sljedeće: > > 1. Više slojna prečica: Insert+razmak, zatim slovo, r. > 2. U ponuđeno edit polje upiši željenu riječ. > 3. Jednom taster TAB pa sa ponuđene liste strelicama gore ili dole odaberi > Wiktionary i pritisni enter. > 4. U virtualnom prozoru dobićeš potrebno objašnjenje. Zatvori ovaj prozor > sa ESC a za sljedeću riječ ponovi prva tri koraka. > > Napomena: Umjesto Wiktionary može se koristiti nešto drugo, za to nešto > drugo upisuješ odgovarajući pojam. Ova opcija je dostupna još od JAWS > 11.0. > > Pozdrav, Gradimir > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Igor Zoric" <zlalama@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:11 AM > Subject: [slikom] Re: Maestrotranslate-pitanje > > > I kako se do toga dolazi. Ja to razumem pa me bas interesuje. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gradimir Kragic" <bastono@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 1:49 PM > Subject: [slikom] Re: Maestrotranslate-pitanje > > >> >> >> Zdravo Borise, >> >> Jest, Engleski jezik kao i naši jezici imaju više značenja. Program >> Maestro Translate nema opciju da za jednu Englesku riječ da više prevoda >> na >> Hrvatskom i obrnuto, zato mu prevodi i jesu takvi kakvi jesu. Ti učenjem >> moraš znati sve te riječi. Kako to nije jednostavno ni lako, treba ti za >> to >> nekoliko desetina godina predlažem ti da se udružiš sa nekim ko dobro zna >> Engleski jezik pa da zajedno riješite te jezičke probleme. >> Usput za tebe ali i sve druge informacija da sam JAWS ima više nego >> dobar Englesko Engleski riječnik. Međutim, dragi naš Borise ovo se neće >> moći naučiti korak po korak, već ti za ovo treba koja hiljada koraka. Da >> ne >> pomisliš kako te zezam, evo i konkretnog primjera. Engleska riječ Good, >> dobar ima mnogo značenja. Evo šta je meni JAWS riječnik sve napisao o toj >> riječi. Za ovo naš dragi Borise ti treba barem tri osobe koje dobro >> govore >> Engleski... >> >> Etymology 1 From Middle English good , from Old English gōd ( “ good, >> virtuous, desirable, favorable, salutary, pleasant, valid, efficient, >> suitable, considerable, sufficiently great ”), from Proto-Germanic *gōdaz >> ( “ good ”), from Proto-Indo-European *gʰedʰ- ( “ to unite, be >> associated, >> suit ”). Cognate with Scots guid ( “ good ”), West Frisian goed ( “ >> good ”), Dutch goed ( “ good ”), Low German god ( “ good ”), German gut >> ( “ good ”), Danish and Swedish god ( “ good ”), Icelandic góður ( “ >> good ”), Lithuanian guõdas ( “ honor ”), Albanian dial. hut ( “ good, >> fit, >> appropriate ”), Old Church Slavonic годъ ( godŭ, “ pleasing time ”) and >> годенъ ( godenŭ, “ fitting, suitable ”), Sanskrit गद्य ( gádhya, “ >> fitting, >> suitable ”). Related to gather. Alternative forms >> >> g’d ( poetic contraction ) >> good ( comparative better , superlative best ) >> Acting in the interest of good; ethical. good intentions 1891, Oscar >> Wilde, >> The Picture of Dorian Gray , Ch. 6 When we are happy, we are always good, >> but when we are good, we are not always happy. >> Useful for a particular purpose; functional. it’s a good watch; the >> flashlight batteries are still good 2013 May-June, David Van Tassel, Lee >> DeHaan, “ Wild Plants to the Rescue”, American Scientist , volume 101, >> number 3: Plant breeding is always a numbers game. [… ] The wild species >> we use are rich in genetic variation, […]. In addition, we are looking >> for >> rare alleles, so the more plants we try, the better. These rarities may >> be >> new mutations, or they can be existing ones that are neutral—or are even >> selected against—in a wild population. A good example is mutations that >> disrupt seed dispersal, leaving the seeds on the heads long after they >> are >> ripe. >> Of food Edible; not stale or rotten. The bread is still good. Having a >> particularly pleasant taste. The food was very good. Being satisfying; >> meeting dietary requirements. Eat a good dinner so you will be ready for >> the big game tomorrow. >> Healthful. carrots are good for you; walking is good for you >> Pleasant; enjoyable. the music, dancing, and food were very good; we had >> a >> good time >> Of people, competent or talented. a good swimmer >> Effective. a good worker >> Favourable. a good omen; good weather >> Beneficial; worthwhile. a good job 1918, W. B. Maxwell, chapter 22, The >> Mirror and the Lamp : Not unnaturally, “Auntie” took this communication >> in >> bad part. [… ] Next day she [… ] tried to recover her ward by the hair of >> the head. Then, thwarted, the wretched creature went to the police for >> help; she was versed in the law, and had perhaps spared no pains to keep >> on >> good terms with the local constabulary. >> ( colloquial ) With "and", extremely. The soup is good and hot. >> ( especially when capitalized ) Holy. Good Friday >> Reasonable in amount. all in good time >> Large in amount or size. A good part of his day was spent shopping. It >> will >> be a good while longer until he's done. He's had a good amount of >> troubles, >> he has. a good while longer; a good amount of seeds >> Entire. This hill will take a good hour and a half to climb. The car was >> a >> good ten miles away. >> ( having positive attributes ) : not bad, all right, satisfactory, decent >> ( healthful ) : well >> ( having positive attributes ) : bad, poor >> ( ethical ) : bad, evil >> good >> That is good: an elliptical exclamation of satisfaction or commendation. >> Good! I can leave now. >> Etymology 2 From Middle English goode ( “ good, well ”, adv ), from the >> adjective. Compare Dutch goed ( “ good, well ”, adv ), German gut ( “ >> good, >> well ”, adv ), Danish godt ( “ good, well ”, adv ), Swedish godt ( “ >> good, >> well ”, adv ), all from the adjective. good ( comparative better , >> superlative best ) >> ( nonstandard ) Well; satisfactorily or thoroughly. 1906, Zane Grey, The >> Spirit of the Border: A Romance of the Early Settlers in the Ohio Valley >> If >> Silvertip refuses to give you the horse, grab him before he can draw a >> weapon, and beat him good. You're big enough to do it. 2007 April 19, >> Jimmy >> Wales, “Jimmy Wales on the User-Generated Generation”, Fresh Air , WHYY, >> Pennsylvania [1] The one thing that we can't do ...is throw out the baby >> with the bathwater. ... We know our process works pretty darn good and, >> uh, >> it’s really sparked this amazing phenomenon of this ...high-quality >> website. >> but good >> Etymology 3 From Middle English good , god , from Old English gōd ( “ a >> good thing, advantage, benefit, gift; good, goodness, welfare; virtue, >> ability, doughtiness; goods, property, wealth ”), from Proto-Germanic >> *gōdą >> ( “ goods, belongings ”), from Proto-Indo-European *gʰedʰ- , *gʰodʰ- ( “ >> to >> unite, be associated, suit ”). good ( countable and uncountable, plural >> goods ) >> ( uncountable ) The forces or behaviors that are the enemy of evil. >> Usually >> consists of helping others and general benevolence. 1918, W. B. Maxwell, >> chapter 13, The Mirror and the Lamp : And Vickers launched forth into a >> tirade very different from his platform utterances. He spoke with extreme >> contempt of the dense stupidity exhibited on all occasions by the working >> classes. He said that if you wanted to do anything for them, you must >> rule >> them, not pamper them. Soft heartedness caused more harm than good. >> ( countable ) A result that is positive in the view of the speaker. >> ( uncountable ) The abstract instantiation of goodness; that which >> possesses desirable qualities, promotes success, welfare, or happiness, >> is >> serviceable, fit, excellent, kind, benevolent, etc. Bible, Psalms iv. 6 >> There be many that say, Who will show us any good? Jay The good of the >> whole community can be promoted only by advancing the good of each of the >> members composing it. The best is the enemy of the good. >> ( countable , usually in plural ) An item of merchandise. William >> Shakespeare Thy lands and goods / Are, by the laws of Venice, confiscate >> / >> Unto the state of Venice. >> ( forces of good ) : bad, evil >> ( positive result ) : bad >> ( item of merchandise ) : capital goods, consumer goods >> Etymology 4 From Middle English goden , godien , from Old English gōdian >> ( “ to improve, get better; make better; endow, enrich ”), from >> Proto-Germanic *gōdōną ( “ to make better, improve ”), from >> Proto-Germanic >> *gōdaz ( “ good, favourable ”). good ( third-person singular simple >> present >> goods , present participle gooding , simple past and past participle >> gooded ) >> ( intransitive , now chiefly dialectal ) To thrive; fatten; prosper; >> improve. >> ( transitive , now chiefly dialectal ) To make good; turn to good; >> improve. >> ( intransitive , now chiefly dialectal ) To make improvements or repairs. >> ( intransitive , now chiefly dialectal ) To benefit; gain. >> ( transitive , now chiefly dialectal ) To do good to (someone); benefit; >> cause to improve or gain. >> ( transitive , now chiefly dialectal ) To satisfy; indulge; gratify. >> ( reflexive , now chiefly dialectal ) To flatter; congratulate oneself; >> anticipate. >> gooding >> Etymology 5 From English dialectal, from Middle English *goden , of North >> Germanic origin, related to Swedish göda ( “ to fatten, fertilise, >> battle ”), Danish gøde ( “ to fertilise, battle ”), ultimately from the >> adjective. See above. good ( third-person singular simple present goods , >> present participle gooding , simple past and past participle gooded ) >> ( transitive , now chiefly dialectal , Scotland ) To furnish with dung; >> manure; fatten with manure; fertilise. (Can we find and add a quotation >> of >> Bishop Hall to this entry?) >> goodening >> Statistics >> Most common English words before 1923: after · first · down · #98: good · >> never · shall · most >> Etymology From Proto-Germanic *gōdaz . Related to English good . Not >> related to gód. >> IPA ( key): [ʝoː˦d], [ʝoː˦t] >> Adjective good (comparative: baeter , superlative: bès , 't bès ) >> good >> ¹ Dative and accusative are nowadays obsolete, use nominative instead. ² >> Vocative only exists for about ten words. Adjective good >> ( in some dialects, including Low Prussian ) Alternative form of goot . >> Etymology From Old English gōd , from Proto-Germanic *gōdaz . Adjective >> good ( comparative beter , superlative beste ) >> good (of good quality) >> good (morally right) 14 th Century, Chaucer, General Prologue and >> certeinly >> he was a good felawe and certainly he was a good fellow >> >> >> >> __________ >> >> Podaci o listi: >> >> 1. Web strana: http://www.slikom.info/ml/sl.html >> 2. Adresa za prijavu: slikom-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx u subjektu upisati: >> subscribe >> 3. Adresa za odjavu: slikom-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx u subjektu upisati: >> unsubscribe >> 4. RSS/feed: http://www.slikom.info/feed.xml >> 5. Podcast: http://www.audio.slikom.info/feed.xml >> 6. Adresa moderatora: SliKom-Moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> __________ >> >> >> > > > > __________ > > Podaci o listi: > > 1. Web strana: http://www.slikom.info/ml/sl.html > 2. Adresa za prijavu: slikom-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx u subjektu upisati: > subscribe > 3. Adresa za odjavu: slikom-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx u subjektu upisati: > unsubscribe > 4. 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