That's exactly the point. That would confuse some laptop users, unless the documentation reads "to the left of the one on the number row in a standard desktop keyboard"; if that's added, then it could work. I readily agree about writing the shortcuts in words, especially if the user would read from a Braille Display. Cheers Vytautas Bucionis -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Erichsen Sent: September 2, 2008 1:34 AM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Urgent: problem with note announcements I mean a standard desktop keyboard. -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vytautas Jr Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2008 3:09 PM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Urgent: problem with note announcements Actually, the location of the grave-accent depends on the brand of your computer, especially in the case of laptops. On my new Toschiba laptop, for example, the grave-accent key is underneath the number row, whereas to the left of the 1 on the number row is escape. Cheers Vytautas -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Erichsen Sent: September 2, 2008 12:13 AM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Urgent: problem with note announcements Dan, I have a suggestion with the way you are writing documentation etc. You wrote: You should be in a combo box called "Keystroke". The keystroke listed hear should be Control+` Cant you make it say: You should be in a combo box called "Keystroke". The keystroke listed hear should be Control+ grave accent. The grave accent key is just to the left of the 1 on the number row. Just it bit more intuitive for users, especially beginners. Also when you write dash and equals, write the words rather than the symbols. Just something things that I think will make it clearer to users. Hope this helps. Scott -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Rugman Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2008 4:04 AM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Urgent: problem with note announcements Hi Vytautas, This is a known issue. The installation process is supposed to assign a keystroke to the access plug-in, but it clearly isn't working. We'll be putting some known issues and fixes up on the site and I pasted the one for this problem below. --- The navigation keystrokes do not work and I keep hearing the same message. The problem is that the Access plug-in has not been assigned a keystroke. To fix this problem, do the following: Press Control+Comma to open the preferences dialog. Pres ShiftTab once. You should be in a list box called "showing page" Select the item "Menus and Shortcuts". Press Tab once. You should be in a combo box and the selected item should be "Access (user copy). If it isn't, select that item. Press Tab again. You should be in a list box called "menu or category". Select the item "plug-ins" Press Tab again. You should be in a list box called "Feature". Press Control+Home to make sure that the first item is selected. DownArrow to the item "Access" Press Tab once more. You should be in a combo box called "Keystroke". The keystroke listed hear should be Control+` If this is not the case then do the following: Tab to the "Add" button and press space. Another dialog opens called "add keystroke". Press Insert+NumberRow3 Press Control+` Tab to the OK button and press space. A message may pop up saying that the keystroke is being used by another plug-in. If it does, press the Yes button. The add keystroke dialog closes and you'll be returned to the preferences dialog. Tab to the OK button and press it. Now try navigating in the score. --- Hope this helps, Dan -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vytautas Jr Sent: 01 September 2008 18:30 To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Urgent: problem with note announcements Hello all, I'm trying to work onone of my scores, but can't make JAWS announce notes and positions correctly. Every note is called C-sharp, and every bar is bar 18; for duration, it announces a weird thing that sounds like "her" or "hur". Is there something I'm missing? Any help would be greatly appreciated, also considering I'm starting University tomorrow. 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