[sib-access] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] 1st and 2nd endings

  • From: Ramy Moustafa <nagham.lovers@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:45:28 +0200

Hae finally it worked,
don't know why it refused to  work, but i followed bar numbering etc
and it   worked,
but the problem is now if the 1st or 2nd  ending will start in teh
middle of a bar and end in teh middle of another bar, i know this, but
sibelius refuse to count bar numbers after this.

any ideas?

On 12/7/14, saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dave,
> I didn't mean and I don't think if Ramy meant putting first and second
> ending inside a bar. But it's possible if you start repeating a
> passage at the third beat of bar 5 for example, and end at the second
> beat of bar 6.
> Regards,
> Saeed
>
> On 12/7/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Saeed,
>>
>> I suspect that you are correct about the selection. I have not worked on
>> a
>> score for a few years, so my memory is not so good as it once was. Good
>> advice on splitting the bar, but again I wonder how a repeat can
>> start/end
>> inside a bar. I think that will cause the tempo to "break" at that point?
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 06:59 AM
>> Subject: [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] 1st and 2nd endings
>>
>>
>> Ramy,
>> I didn't say so! No need of 2 end-repeat barlines.
>> About repeating from the middle of bar, calassically if the
>> repeatition begins from the third beat of a 4/4 bar, it has to be
>> ended at the second beat of an other bar. The symmetry has to be
>> followed.
>> Dave,
>> As far as my experience, there's no need to select the intervals
>> between first and second ending line.
>> Regards,
>> Saeed
>>
>> On 12/7/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hello Ramy,
>>>
>>> First, I don't know how you can possibly start a repeat line inside the
>>> middle of a bar -- you'll have to figure out a way to write the score
>>> differently to not do this. Repeat sections as well as repeats need to
>>> start
>>>
>>> and end on the exact bar lines.
>>>
>>> As for your overall problem, I wonder if you're not selecting all the
>>> bars
>>> 15 through 18 before you apply the first repeat line over them?
>>>
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ramy Moustafa" <nagham.lovers@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 11:32 PM
>>> Subject: [Bulk] [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] 1st and 2nd endings
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi sir Dave:
>>> Thanks so much for your reply.
>>> i followed all your words, and i read what you wrote in sibelius tips
>>> and tricks, but, to be sure,
>>> i will describe here what i want to do:
>>> i need to play from bar 10 to bar15, then i have a passage from bar 16
>>> to bar18, then teh player will play from bar 10 to bar 15, then he
>>> will play from bar 19 to bar 23, and continue the score
>>> i did the following:
>>> i put a start repat line on bar 10, i put 1st ending, on bar 16 to bar
>>> 18, i put an end repeat line at teh end of bar 18, and i put 2nd
>>> ending  "not the closed one" on bar 19 to 23,
>>> this is what i did exactly, but as i stated, sibelius play this
>>> incorrectly.
>>> and by th e way, if the 1st or 2nd enging start  at the middile of the
>>> bar, how can i do that? i tried doing this in previous  score, but the
>>> line layed on  the hole bar.
>>> help please??
>>>
>>> On 12/7/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Ramy,
>>>>
>>>> There are several "Line" types and also several different repeat line
>>>> types.
>>>>
>>>> I think you may have selected those with no numbering, and should go
>>>> back
>>>> and check. Also I expect that you've already put the end repeat bar at
>>>> the
>>>> end of the first repeat section?
>>>>
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "ramy moustafa" <nagham.lovers@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "sib access mailing list" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 09:38 PM
>>>> Subject: [Bulk] [sib-access] 1st and 2nd endings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello all
>>>> i'm  trying to put 1st and 2nd endings on my score, i followed all dann
>>>> discribed and i put the end repeat after the 1st ending and i put the
>>>> 2nd
>>>> ending-opened after this on the next bar.
>>>> my 2 problems are that sibelius repeat them in a wrong way, don't know
>>>> why?
>>>>
>>>> and, after the 2nd ending, sibelius loses the bar numbering at all,
>>>> this
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>> not a jaws issue, even sited person told me that, numbers disappeared,
>>>> what am i doing wrong?
>>>> thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>>> Musicc instructor at:
>>>> faculty of musical education
>>>> music arranger and sound engineer
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