[sib-access] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] 1st and 2nd endings

  • From: saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 18:43:21 +0100

Dave,
I didn't mean and I don't think if Ramy meant putting first and second
ending inside a bar. But it's possible if you start repeating a
passage at the third beat of bar 5 for example, and end at the second
beat of bar 6.
Regards,
Saeed

On 12/7/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Saeed,
>
> I suspect that you are correct about the selection. I have not worked on a
> score for a few years, so my memory is not so good as it once was. Good
> advice on splitting the bar, but again I wonder how a repeat can start/end
> inside a bar. I think that will cause the tempo to "break" at that point?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 06:59 AM
> Subject: [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] 1st and 2nd endings
>
>
> Ramy,
> I didn't say so! No need of 2 end-repeat barlines.
> About repeating from the middle of bar, calassically if the
> repeatition begins from the third beat of a 4/4 bar, it has to be
> ended at the second beat of an other bar. The symmetry has to be
> followed.
> Dave,
> As far as my experience, there's no need to select the intervals
> between first and second ending line.
> Regards,
> Saeed
>
> On 12/7/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hello Ramy,
>>
>> First, I don't know how you can possibly start a repeat line inside the
>> middle of a bar -- you'll have to figure out a way to write the score
>> differently to not do this. Repeat sections as well as repeats need to
>> start
>>
>> and end on the exact bar lines.
>>
>> As for your overall problem, I wonder if you're not selecting all the
>> bars
>> 15 through 18 before you apply the first repeat line over them?
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ramy Moustafa" <nagham.lovers@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 11:32 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] 1st and 2nd endings
>>
>>
>> Hi sir Dave:
>> Thanks so much for your reply.
>> i followed all your words, and i read what you wrote in sibelius tips
>> and tricks, but, to be sure,
>> i will describe here what i want to do:
>> i need to play from bar 10 to bar15, then i have a passage from bar 16
>> to bar18, then teh player will play from bar 10 to bar 15, then he
>> will play from bar 19 to bar 23, and continue the score
>> i did the following:
>> i put a start repat line on bar 10, i put 1st ending, on bar 16 to bar
>> 18, i put an end repeat line at teh end of bar 18, and i put 2nd
>> ending  "not the closed one" on bar 19 to 23,
>> this is what i did exactly, but as i stated, sibelius play this
>> incorrectly.
>> and by th e way, if the 1st or 2nd enging start  at the middile of the
>> bar, how can i do that? i tried doing this in previous  score, but the
>> line layed on  the hole bar.
>> help please??
>>
>> On 12/7/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Ramy,
>>>
>>> There are several "Line" types and also several different repeat line
>>> types.
>>>
>>> I think you may have selected those with no numbering, and should go
>>> back
>>> and check. Also I expect that you've already put the end repeat bar at
>>> the
>>> end of the first repeat section?
>>>
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "ramy moustafa" <nagham.lovers@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "sib access mailing list" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 09:38 PM
>>> Subject: [Bulk] [sib-access] 1st and 2nd endings
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all
>>> i'm  trying to put 1st and 2nd endings on my score, i followed all dann
>>> discribed and i put the end repeat after the 1st ending and i put the
>>> 2nd
>>> ending-opened after this on the next bar.
>>> my 2 problems are that sibelius repeat them in a wrong way, don't know
>>> why?
>>>
>>> and, after the 2nd ending, sibelius loses the bar numbering at all, this
>>> is
>>>
>>> not a jaws issue, even sited person told me that, numbers disappeared,
>>> what am i doing wrong?
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
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