[sib-access] Re: 1st and 2nd endings, dacapo etc

  • From: "Ramy Moustafa" <moshtaqlealganna@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:36:28 -0700

Hi dear:

Thanks so much, it works  great,
Really I don't know what shall I do to achieve it.
Thanks so much, I will keep the email for my records


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-----Original Message-----
From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patricia Elena Vlieg
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:52 AM
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Re: 1st and 2nd endings, dacapo etc

Hi, Ramy, for the situation with first and second ending the way to do it is

the following:

1. Place a start repeat sign before the first bar and an end repeat on the 
fourth bar of the passage. (Repeat lines are found under barline in the 
create menu). For the start repeat, select the beginning of the first bar 
(Ctrl, Shift Left Arrow), alt C for create, bar lines, start bar line, 
enter.
For the end repeat, you need to select the bar after which the line will be 
placed.


2. For specifying the first ending, select bar 4 (with control shift right 
arrow), press L for lines, tab once to system lines, movedown with the 
cursors until you find first ending and press enter. Sib Access will report 
the first and second ending and repeat lines as  system objects.
3. Do the same for the second ending which should be after your fourth bar. 
Make sure you select the amount of bars that the line will be covering, and 
then place the line as described above.

Visually, it works like this: peple see the start repeat, play the passage 
including the first ending, repeat and then jump to the second ending and 
continue on. Make sure that you have the end repeat after the first ending.
Alt F2 on Sib Access shows you the system objects and here you can make sure

that you have placed the signs correctly.

For the other instance, where you have 4 bars, then 10 bars and then back to

the first 4 bars, you would use D.S. al Coda.
At the end of the tenth bar, where the musicians need to jump back, you 
would write D.S. al Coda. There are several places to find this text in 
Sibelius:
1. Go to the Creat menu (alt C), text (x), other system text (H), repeat 
D.S. D.C (R). When you are into that menu, you are in a place where you can 
type (like when you enter Tempo text with Control Alt T). By pressing Shift 
F10, you will access the context menu containing texts already given by 
Sibelius.
Move down, select D.S al Coda and press enter.

2. Go back to the bar from which you want people to repeat. Press Z for 
symbol (you can find symbols through the create menu as well).
The first row shows the symbol category (repeats, ornaments, etc). If you 
move right with the cursor, you will find the symbols within that category.
The first one is repeat. Select the segno sign (once you are on top of it, 
you need to select it with space bar, enter won't do it). Once selected, tab

to OK and press enter.

3. Last step: after repeating the four bars, the musicians need to jump 
forward in order to continue playing. So, you need to specify those places. 
Write "To Coda" after the fourth bar. The text is found under the create 
menu (Alt C), text (X), other system text (H) Repeat (R), and shift F10 as 
described for D.S. al Coda.
4. Place the Coda where musicians will jump to. It's there also (Other 
system text, repeat), or in Symbols (where you found the Segno sign).

Honestly, if it's only four bars, I would copy them. It's easier and it 
avoids jumping back and fourth and therefore, the possibility of mistakes.

Best,

Patricia Elena Vlieg
http://www.patriciaelena.com/

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From: "Ramy Moustafa" <moshtaqlealganna@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:32 PM
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [sib-access] 1st and 2nd endings, dacapo etc

Hi all:
Really I don't use 1st and 2nd endings so much so now I forgot how to use
them,
And also, the dacapo
When I was using the Sibelius 3 with Sibelius speaking, the documents can
remind me, but now please
I have a situation that I need your help
I have 4 bars, and I need to repeat the 1st 3 bars then I will change the
4th one, how can I achieve this in Sibelius 5 with sib-access?
And, if I need to repeat  a music part, for instance,
I have 4 bars then another 10 bars, then I need to repeat the 1st 4 bars.
How can I achieve this also?

Any help wil be highly abbreciated
And please please, I need this as quickly as you can
Thanks

Cheers:
Ramy Moustafa
If music be the food of love... play on.
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0020102221750
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ramy.moustafa.s@xxxxxxxxx
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