Ron, This topic has come up on the SI-List before (three or four times since I joined), and the end result is usually the same: there's no work-around. If I recall correctly, anyone using plane-to-plane spacing less than 4 mils run up against the patent, and they must obtain permission to do so. The point I'm not certain on is who is responsible for obtaining the permission. I believe the board manufacturers are the ones that usually assume the responsibility for this, but I'm not certain of it. Pat > > Hi Guys > > I am up against the problem of using thinner dielectric in > order to eliminate the need for sub-1000 pf bypass capacitors. > > While this technique was used for many years some idiot at > the patent office actually gave them a patent for it. No > novelty at all but standard practice. > > Is anyone else having trouble with this? > > Does anyone have published articles or books that document > this use prior to 1989? > > If so, please let me know. Perhaps a consortium of industry > professionals can help to remove this travesty of the patent system. > > Ron Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu