Hi, Chris: I admired your comments and the associated question you posed. If you caught my comment on this subject sent a few minutes ago, you will see that there is no way I would split pairs to different layers (unless forced into using broadside coupled pairs). My interpretation of Lee's comments was that he occasionally uses the traces of a differential pair on totally separate layers (i.e., as separate 50-Ohm traces). There was no mention (that I caught) of broadside-coupled pairs, which is a workable solution, but has other design tradeoffs. Lee Richey and I do not appear to be on the same page. Regarding "tightly coupled" traces: The degree of coupling tends to fall in the 10-20% range; therefore, there is still considerable current implied in the nearest image plane (but of course, with opposite polarity so the net current is very small). I use tightly coupled traces with reasonable separation from adjacent pairs to a) minimize the net differential signal coupled into any given pair, and b) minimize impedance variations caused by manufacturing tolerances in the dielectric materials. Mike Michael L. Conn Owner/Principal Consultant Mikon Consulting *** Serving Your Needs with Technical Excellence *** ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu