Hi Marc, I am not surprised by your luck in finding a reasonable cost for your proje= ct. This does not sound like a commodity product to me as it has a few cha= llenges that are associated with the microvia processing side. Furthermore= , the tooling required for such a built and its low volume will drive the c= osts even higher. However, I do have some suggestions for your layouts including multilayer m= icrovias and stacked microvias. Lastly, if it is a prototype and has flexi= bility in the material selection. I have available a beta version spread-f= iber high-speed material in sample quantities that is microvia friendly tha= t you team may find beneficial. Cheers, Russell -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On= Behalf Of Marc Battyani Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:23 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] 8 layer PCB stackups and microvias Hello, We are designing a small 8L board with the following stackup: S/G/S/G/P/S/G/S (S =3D signal, P =3D power, G =3D ground) The most notable components are a few DDR2 (533) around an FPGA. If we use microvias on the layers 1-2, 2-3, 6-7,7-8, we can route most of the fast signals on the layers 1 and 3. With no microvias, we have to use all the layers. To keep the 50 Ohm tracks at a reasonable width, we use 100=B5m (4mils) dielectric thickness for the layers 1-2-3 and 6-7-8. Are we missing a better PCB stackup? Anybody tried something like G/S/S/G/P/S/S/G? Can you recommend a good PCB shop able to make a few prototypes (+-10) at a reasonable cost? (We have been given very high prices for this so far) Thanks, Marc ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu