Kathy, only about 10 % of the ab judges charge a fee, and they are the ones who judge multiple groups. Most charge only actual expenses or a set fee per dog, $ 3 or $4. This will be a huge blow to those who show good dogs in the ab ring as the specialty judges who also judge additional breeds, will not be able to afford the fees to continue to judge the few shows they are assigned. We are going to be stuck with those old F--ts who don't even like GSs and judge by the faces in the magazines ( and I do not refer to the dogs' faces). I also do not refer to Jimmy or Scotty or JR as they are showing quite remarkable GSs. Have I missed some ? Carolyn --- On Fri, 5/14/10, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was (no subject) - AKC judging fees To: bedkar@xxxxx, lebrowngsd@xxxxxxx Cc: windwalkergsds@xxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 4:46 PM I never said it all went into their pockets Kay. But even if 1/2 goes into their pocket, (fee for judging, fee per dog in the case of performance dogs), and 1/2 is for expenses (uhhhhhhhhhhhhh....I can eat for less than $35 per day lol and I can get to where I am going for less than the mileage expenses I've paid, and I can print course maps for less than the expenses I've signed off of for performance judges), that's still a tidy little part time job for some of the popular all 'rounders. AND Lord knows I'm not begrudging ANYONE for making a buck...but by the same token if there are a few hundred dollars of fees I'm not losing any sleep. Obviously we have specialty judges who either don't charge or charge a very minimal amount. That's lovely and welcome! That's NOT the norm for AB clusters though. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 5/14/2010 12:09:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bedkar@xxxxx writes: So, when you mention that someone's club has spent $25,000, you need to be more detailed about what it was spent for. How many judges? What kind of accommodations? Transportation? Food? It does not all go into the judges pockets. ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================