Freddie HI, I agree with you, it is UNREAL and absolutely marvelous that a terrier man would put up the GV BIS. I love it. It just may be that as a terrier man he could have cared less about a German Shepherd GV, not necessarily a big deal to him with that breed. I'll take Barbara's word for it - if she thinks he was a knowledgeable dog man, I believe it, anyway it's kind of nice to give the guy credit if we can. Wonder if there were any other BOB National Specialty winners there - could be, & could be that he preferred the GS we will never know. Once saw a GV shown in the group, judge knew exactly who the dog was, didn't place him. Just grateful that a few of the all breed judges, regardless of their original breed, (especially terrier), do know a great one when they see it. Wish we had more of them. And just so you know, I also prefer the Specialty Ring with one of our own in the middle of the ring pointing the finger, always will. Hope to see you soon at one of those. Stay warm up there ya here. Best Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: the all breed ring In a message dated 12/15/2005 11:37:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Verifying the point, a great terrier judge had the eye, knowledge etc to reconize Lance. Or He may have known who it was. Get real ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================