> Oh, my gosh, Peggy..... I have seen so much chalking and blatant > coloring in the terries, collies, shelties and the poodles that it > amazes me that the rule is so detailed and it is still being done. > You can walk by some of the grooming tables and the air is thick with > powder and groomers/handlers wear gloves while they apply their magic > Dania Well, there is that same level of amazement from the judges from other breeds who attend our judges' seminar and observe our judging regarding double handling. One poor lady tried to ask about that in this year's seminar and Ginny cut her off. The AKC no longer sends a rep to our national because of our doubling. They don't want their reps to be in the position of witnessing the doubling. Linda More often comes to our national, but, when she was Asst. VP of Judging Operations, she always made it a point to say that she was there in an unofficial capacity. I, for one, have been penalized by some judges for doubling when I wasn't. It is not always easy to determine who is doubling outside the ring when you are standing in the middle of the ring. Judges in this year's seminar at the national were advised to look to see if hair on the dog's back is black all the way to the root, and, if it is, to suspect color enhancement. My own dogs go back to CH Clover Acres' Excitation ROM who was as black and red as they come, and, I, on occasion, have been accused of enhancing the red pigment on my dogs. As far as gray muzzles go, I attended a judges' seminar on the Belgium shepherd where judges where advised NOT to penalize dogs with grizzled muzzles. Perhaps if we did a better job of educating judges then exhibitors wouldn't worry about being penalized by uninfomed judges for something that is acceptable and should not be faulted. Until that happens, expect mascara usage to be fairly common place in our breed. JMO... Laurie Pruett ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================