[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership
- From: Lyn Chernak <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:41:03 -0800 (PST)
Paulette ..... BRAVO!!!! Very well put.
And yes Ed, there are those that do know the names of OB Victors/Victrix
(and even check out the blood-lines)
Lyn Chernak
CherLyn Shepherds - Updated Nov 29,2011
http://www.cherlynshepherds.com
Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership
CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC
Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, CD, RA, TC, CGC
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From: "cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership
Ed, I agree that the Board is not there to make ED HILL happy. Why? Because
ED HILL is not a member of the Club! This is the FIRST time that I have ever
expressed such an opinion on this issue. So how have I been saying what I did
every two minutes? Do you not read who makes the posts? You know what? If I
did feel like expressing my opinion every two minutes, I'd do so.
It may be a nothing argument to you, but the issue is important to me. I'm
sure I must be the only one who feels this way.
BTW, no need to point out what my options are. Don't you think I already know
what they are? Just as I know that you are very familiar with option 4)
Quitting the Club. When you don't like something the Board has done, that
seems to be the only option you consider.
One last thing... There is no Obedience Grand Victor -- only Obedience
Victor/Victrix.
Note to ADMIN... Feel free to put me on MODPOST or give me a warning for
attacking a List member; however, I will not be castigated, by anyone, for
expressing an opinion on this List. Especially not by someone who is not a
Club member when Club issues are being discussed, and therefore has no vested
interest in how the GSDCA BOD votes on this or any other issue.
PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam
PS Thank you Molly for your objective response to my post!
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From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership
my question is who decides what a "decision of magnitude" is?.......the board (
elected by the members) is not there to made ED HILL happy!...several boards
have made decisions that I have NOT agreed with......we ( you) have about 4
choices....1. let the board do their job 2. don't like the job they did, vote
them out 3. get rid of the board and vote on everything and pray Canadians
members get their ballots 4. quit the club........we all, ( well not me)....all
CLUB members have every right to be upset at any or all decisions the board
makes.....but this cry of saying every two minutes that we ( you) should have
had a vote,,...where does it end...nothing will ever get done.......this is a
nothing argument compared to some really big things that are much more
important than the qualifications for an Obedience GV, most of whom no one can
name and even fewer can remember...oey vay....Ed Hill
From: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:21:54 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership
Zoe writes: "This is a Club award - and the club can make whatever
requirements it wants. It is not a
standard change, and the Club can decide NOT to use the standard to create
requirements for
the award whenever it deems it appropriate. "
Therein lies the problem... The *BOARD* is who decided not to use the Standard
to create requirements for the award, not the CLUB!!! I'm sure the comeback
will be, "The Board represents the Club."
Well, when a decision of this magnitude is being considered, I feel it should
be voted on by the members of the Club. Not just Board members.
PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doc Zoe" <wynsum@xxxxxxx>
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:56 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] a question to the board/membership
On 9 Feb 2012, at 12:48, Carolyn Martello wrote:
AND........even if it were meant to be whites only.........no one who
adheres to the Standard should have the authority to choose to pick and
choose WHICH disqualifying fault does not matter??
<reply>
This is a Club award - and the club can make whatever requirements it wants.
It is not a
standard change, and the Club can decide NOT to use the standard to create
requirements for
the award whenever it deems it appropriate. If the standard was being used,
then any altered
dog would not be elligible for these awards.
Two whites qualified for Obedience Victress. They were denied the award.
Whites rarely come
to the National to compete in Performance because of this - and they are CLUB
members.
Color of an animal is irrelevant in Performance. It is relevant in
Conformation.
By the standards set, an ILP/PAL dog can get this award - and they might not
even be
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