Why bother to show if they are all out of the same "cookie cutter" mold? IF a dog has more rear angulation or a higher wither and that is what I need...great there is one out there. If a dog is shorter coupled, or has more coat, or a longer stride and that is what our bitch needs ....... SUPER. None of us will ever agree completely on what is a great croup or length of loin......or a great dog. That's why we have GREAT DISCUSSIONS! <G> The only way we would ever have German Shepherd Dogs that all look the same is if we had a 'Breed Warden' TELLING us what we could or could not do. YIKES!!!' May it never be!!!!!!!! Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx To: ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx Cc: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Type divergence How boring would that be? Is it going to be black? or sable? or white? Male or bitch? Besides, its not the dogs that are not getting competed on all the different areas, is the owners who are not taking the dogs there. It takes a lot of planning in our household to do conformation and herding. 'Cause the fact is, we have to work to pay for those "fun" times. In Germany, you can take your dogs with you everywhere. In the USA, they are people trying to take our dogs away from us...(read ARA). So, we work within our limits and make the best of it. But yes, we can do a lot better when it comes to supporting each other. * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : BISS 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, aka DEXTER Kaleef's Expensive Date (major pointed) aka JACKIE and the Poodle Patrol, Bunny, Huckleberry and Doc Holliday In a message dated 12/7/2011 11:35:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx writes: I just don't know why we can't have one dog that looks the same and competes in all areas where we support each other. sara =========================================================================== POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================