The reason they can say that is WE DON'T TEST to those standards; thus we have created that impression. And until you meet those standards WE are guilty, not the dogs. Ask them the next time when are their members going to upgrade the HIP evaluations to the Australian/ New Zealand evaluation, where the progeny scores affect the parents score. Morgan Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA President Last Hope of Georgia 501c3 "So Much to Do, So Little Time" ________________________________ From: Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx> To: texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 11:32 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Type divergence I just wanted to attend a USA conformation show NOT even a ScH trial. Just the conformation part but I got an earful as a GSDCA member. Most of the ScH people told me to just dissolve my GSDCA membership but I said....Hell, No! Their argument was that GSDCA has ruined the breed (we have heard this before, right) as they go by German breeding standards unlike the gSDCA. I think they were: -a conformation rating of good or better -a ScH 1 title or a HGH -a courage/temperament test - an endurance test -a gunshot test -hips and elbows rated I think that's everything. The dog has to have all of the above before it is allowed to be bred. They are saying none of the GSDCA dogs would pass German standards. I think the "none" is a bit excessive and not true. However, I do support the idea of their system. Sara ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ; SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================