Take time to attend a herding trial. You will see the difference then. Not that it matters, the Rottie people will be telling you they are better, the Cardi people will be telling you they are better, the Collie people will be telling you they are better. However.......when I watch Dexter herding, I LOVE the way he moves, how he keeps his distance, how the suspended movement makes it look....easy. Its the only word I can think of right of the top. I like all dogs, but I LOVE to see a good GSD in movement. Reach, drive, strength, suspension, ease. Yup, give me a GSD any day. And please, don't tell the poodles....<G> * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : BISS 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, aka DEXTER Kaleef's Expensive Date (major pointed) aka JACKIE and the Poodle Patrol, Bunny, Huckleberry and Doc Holliday In a message dated 12/7/2011 11:44:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx writes: I must, respectfully disagree! I can't see how that angulation allows a dog to herd better! I am just not seeing it!!! ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================