[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars
- From: caggra@xxxxxxx
- To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx, cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:37:27 -0400
Send in email from Robin Stansell to myself in late 2007 when I inquired about
this issue being discussed.Â
"Futurities are the clubâ??sresponsibility and the enforcement should therefore
be a club matter. The results are not recorded by AKC and are a matter of the
clubâ??s jurisdiction. "
Robin Stansell
Vice President - Event Operations AKC
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From: caggra@xxxxxxx
To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx;
cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 10:24 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars
To All:
Nancy Harper writes:
"Linda is correrct, Jeff Pyle did not handle a dog? prior to judging.? He was
hired" prior to the judging as verified by the closing date of the TN
hows.? Talk with AKC they have ruled this constitues a "conflict of
nterest".?? Should AKC change their ruling, I am quite sure the PC Board
ould do the same."
was not "hired".?? I was asked by Linda (not Joan) to show a few dogs at the
ast Tennesee specialty which was after Joan's Futurity.?? Linda asked me to
how an Open dog for someone in Florida, which I was paid for.?? She also asked
f I could help the struggling East Tennessee club by taking in a couple of
xtra dogs that weren't really competitive, but as we all know sometimes we fill
p an entry to make majors for everyone.? I did not invoice any of the owners of
he bitch which Joan's name was part of, nor ever wa
s paid for showing that
itch or a couple of others owned by other people.?? Therefore, please tell me
ow that equate to a?BUSINESS relationship when no communication between me and
oan occured and no invoice/money was exchanged???
To clarify?a few key points?-
I have never, not once?been booked to show a dog for?Joan Fox.? She has never
alled and booked me to show a dog.? Prior to this East Tennessee show in
uestion I never showed a dog?owned, co-owned, or bred by Joan Fox.?? Since that
how, I have never showed a dog owned, co-owned or bred by Joan?Fox.? ?She has
ever been a client of mine.? I have spoken with Joan on the phone approximately
times in my entire life - all 5 occuring AFTER this whole incident happened.?
have never been to Joan Fox's home and she has never been to mine.?? I have
ever shared a meal with Joan Fox - we have never grabbed lunch or dinner.??
All of the above are the normal activities that I believe occur when there is a
usiness relationship between people.??
Lastly, when I contacted AKC I was told that they do not rule on Futurity
ncidents.? Their words - "We do not record wins for matches & futurities, so
ow can we possibly take away a win for something that is not recorded"??? I was
urther told that AKC would simply?stand by whatever decision the?parent
lub?determined, and if necessary, help the GSDCA enforce their (their meaning
SDCA) final ruling.?? I have the above statements from AKC in writing by
email
f anyone would like to see them.
Sincerely,
Jeff Pyle
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rom: Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
o: lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx; cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
ent: Sun, Sep 6, 2009 7:05 pm
ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars
inda is correrct, Jeff Pyle did not handle a dog prior to judging. He was
hired" prior to the judging as verified by the closing date of the TN
hows. Talk with AKC they have ruled this constitues a "conflict of
nterest". Should AKC change their ruling, I am quite sure the PC Board
ould do the same.
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rom: <lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx>
o: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:48 PM
ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars
am putting true money on the table. I will donate $10,000 (ten thousand
ollars) to rescue if Carmen Battaglia or Nancy Harper can tell us one time
eff Pyle EVER handled, watered, or fed, (covering all bases here lol) a dog
or Joan Fox prior to her judging the SE Fut Mat in April of 2006. I am
erious on the challenge and confident my bank account will not be depleted.
ent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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rom: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:56:56
o: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: handling for a judge
he 4-month rule may have only recently been added to the GSDCA judging
uidlines, but as of 01/08/2004, this rule was in effect wit
h the AKC. The
SDCA Futurities/Maturities are AKC *sanctioned* matches. Therefore, the
udge of an AKC sanctioned match is required to follow *AKC* rules and
uidlines in effect at the time the match took place.
Here's the AKC link where you will find the 4-month rule stated clearly and
oncisely:
ttp://www.akc.org/about/conflict/exhibitB.cfm
Look under section III. Ineligible Dogs and you will see the following:
"2. If a judge uses an agent, the agent is not to exhibit dogs under the
udge for at least four months after working for you. This policy applies
or breed competition, but it is recommended to avoid at all levels
Policy - Guidelines)."
f my post is incorrect, please let met know.
aulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member
ellborn-Allemande German Shepherds
ui Me Amat, Am
t et Canem Meam
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rom: "Peg Kurz" <gatlinp@xxxxxxx>
o: <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:01 PM
ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: handling for a judge
our right Sally, there was never a rule until recently that said "4-months
fter he showed to you"
Peg
Just for clarification at the time
he 4-month rule stated: A Handler cannot show under a judge for 4 months
FTER he handles for that Judge
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rom: Sally Hayden <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>
o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
ent: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:55 pm
ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] handling for a judge
Just for clarification at the time
he 4-month rule stated: A Handler cannot show under a judge f
or 4 months
FTER he handles for that Judge
ally
www.embroiderybysally.org
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