~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh Jim, it DOES exist. Just ask any of us old farts. The problem is some judges and exhibitors can't recognize it for what it is. Liz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We were at the San Diego specialty some years ago, and Lealynn's Dark Secret was in second place, open bitch. The judge was working them all, then set the rest of the class aside and had the first two go around, after he had moved out of the center of the ring to the side near where I was standing. He sent the first dog, then told Secret's handler to hold up a bit, then told them to go. Secret so easily caught up to the other dog taking far fewer steps. Then he stopped them and did it again. 3 times, then a fourth. I was getting worried, when he turned and said to the handler, "Don't worry, I just like to see her do it so easily!" Then she was put up front and he called the class. She also finished that day. Thank you Liz for our girl, and thank you Paul for that win. Easy should not just be a "Secret!" Dave ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================