I've never kept one either Sharon. I keep a small # of dogs and they all have to do double or triple duty...house companion, show/performance events and possibly an occasional breeding. The most important thing is they pass the "coffee test"...that is, day in, day out, they bring a smile to my face as I enjoy that first cup of coffee of the day. There are a lot of deal breakers for me. Some have to do w/ the standard (light eyes, poor ear set, weak feet), some don't (I don't care for some allowable colors either). But, no matter, it's my test. I figure if I'm the one loving' on them and taking care of them, I can use my test. Coats have never appealed to me, it's just that simple. I know some people just fall all over them, and that's their right. I know some coats can produce (as well as their pedigree and the overall quality of THIEIR own litter) so no argument there. But for me, plain and simple, they just aren't appealing. Some people like chocolate, some vanilla. The points Carolyn and Sally raise are valid, but I've never even gotten THAT far <G>. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 9/13/2009 10:08:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, CODAGSD@xxxxxx writes: I've never kept a long coat, but I would if she were great in other areas I needed for my breeding program. I have kept bitches with other faults, as there is no perfect bitch. And, yes, sometimes that fault is a minor movement fault. Actually, there is no such thing, as all movement faults are considered serious by the Standard! One of my CH ROM bitches is a bit wide coming at you and so are a few of her progeny, but by no means all, and she also produced an ROM bitch. So, I guess we all pick the faults we can live with and others we can't. Sharon CODA GERMAN SHEPHERDS ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================