Hi Guys I have to shake my head over some of the comments from some about the length of time it took to do Selects. First , from what I understand the quality was DEEP and the procedure consistent. I think some are never happy, as for the previous two years the complaints were, didn't take ENOUGH time, didn't let the dogs show.... Now this year I hear "too long" Remember folks, when you put a dog or bitch into the Nationals esp, Specials you have spent a LOT of time, money , sweat and maybe tears getting him or her to that point. You bear the cost of the trip to the National, the stress, the advertising, the readying to SHOWCASE your animal. So you get there, and you get one or two laps and out you go. People go as much to show their dogs to the OUTSIDE of the ring, as the inside. To sacrifice so much for two minutes is ridiculous, and disheartening for owners. THANK YOU Mr. Downing for allowing people to see their dogs in the big ring, and for giving enough time to each to allow those OUTSIDE the ring to appreciate and see the dogs. Win lose or draw , you let them "play" which makes it a bit better for those that didn't make it all the way. At least they got something for their efforts. The dogs were WORKED, what a concept, to WORK a Special, a dog that is in competition for the BEST dog on the day. For that you are to be commended. The creme will rise to the top in the working dogs, generally speaking. So on behalf of all amongst us who are tired of the "30 Second Select", lol THANK YOU FOR DOING THE JOB YOU DID. Kathy WEBSITE UPDATED: NOV 6, 2005 _http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/) VICTORY GSDs, There Is Something In A Name ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================