I can't believe it...you've never been to New York? You will probably find Westminster boring. The crowds are terrible, food (when you can find it) close to inedible at the Garden itself...and expensive most other places unless you know where to go. Even McDonalds is more expensive in the City (and yes, there's only one City on this continent...there are two other Cities I know of, London and Sydney.........but on this continent, there is only one.) We used to be allowed to stand in the "waiting" area by ringside...most people aren't allowed to do that any more...and the rings at the Garden are very small, esp. for Shepherds...the sure way to mess a dog up is to double it, because there's no place to gait to. A big sidegaiting dog can't get three steps on any side, and probably not on the diagonal, either. It's a show to "pose" at...that's all. And everybody knows this breed has to be judged on sidegait, no? ;-) BUT - FB, when you're in NYC, there are so many OTHER things to see...just get a list and go see them! Go to Ground Zero, for one thing...it'll really get to you. I can't believe it...never been in New York!!! What a shame........glad you're finally remedying that! Peggy Edwin Hill wrote: >next adventure...Westminster...never been to New York.....FB > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================