I guess my concern is that with time and money and a good dog, you can get any level of grand championship never having to go Best of Breed. I think to be in the Parade of Greats, the dog has to have done something great like in performance, be a Ch. UD, herding Ch. or be an "outstanding" representative of the breed. I know dogs that have different levels of Grand Ch. but have never gone Best of Breed, Group 1 or BISS/BIS and just don't think they need to be represented as one of the Greats. We all know that AKC added the GCh. to get more money and to have a venue for someone who wants to continue showing after getting their Ch. I am not saying a GCh. is not a good thing after all as a Veteran I am showing Strider, periodically when Art can fit him into his schedule, for his GCh. just because he loves showing and deserves it but should that only qualify him for Parade of Greats, I don't think so. JMHO Kay On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx wrote: > How many times would you say someone has to show a Ch to make Gr Ch? > What about including the GOLD winning grand Ch.....you obviously > would have to be out there a lot to do that....and how many points > is it for that 100????? > Molly > > In a message dated 3/3/2012 12:23:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, > SHOWGSD@xxxxxxx > writes: > agree that GSDs that have a BIS or Group 1s or maybe GSDs that make > it into the top 5 or 10. I don't think I agree about including GCh. > as a dog can get that title without every winning a group or going > BIS/ > BISS. JMHO > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================