The article in this year's Red Book, I thought, explained all of this wonderfully. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 12/8/2011 2:32:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx writes: Many people have questioned the validity of the test, because the DNA marker is not specific to GSD's. Someone recently posted about a dog dying from DM, a dog that is directly related to mine. Now the test website says it takes two copies of the affected gene for a dog have DM. Supposedly, the sire was tested for DM, and the test came back clear. So either the person who tested was not honest about the results, or the test produced a false negative. That makes me wonder. I have not tested my dog, but I have a DM clear puppy, which should mean that my dog does not have two affected genes and should not be affected, perhaps a carrier though.Ã? I have ordered the tests, so we shall see, but if the test is giving clear results to dogs who are producing affected offspring, what's the value anyway? Ã? Denise Williams Chopper, Chase, Phoenix and Flare http://www.showgermanshepherds.info for show and performance ________________________________ From: "InquestGSD@xxxxxxx" <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> To: winstone@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 12:07 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] DM I think more and more people are getting behind this test.Ã? I know weÃ? have, tested Dexter (he is normal) and haven't announce it because we stillÃ? don't have the certificateÃ? (huge printing backlog at OFA, we areÃ? told). Anyway, the thing we must understand is that these test are excellent tools to help you decide how you should proceed on your breeding program.Ã? TheyÃ? are the best of what is available now. There will be a seminar at the CO National about DM.Ã? IÃ? think everyone should attend, and every club should send one person toÃ? bring something back to educate their members. * IleanaÃ? * Inquest GSD's, Home of : BISS 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CHÃ? Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, aka DEXTER Kaleef's Expensive Date (majorÃ? pointed) aka JACKIE and the Poodle Patrol, Bunny, Huckleberry and DocÃ? HollidayÃ? In a message dated 12/8/2011 11:20:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,Ã? winstone@xxxxxxxxx writes: HiÃ? list, I just had to put my 6 yr old to sleep because of DM, I am curiousÃ? about how many breeders are using the tests available and what the consensusÃ? is on them.Ã? I will be looking for a puppy probably in the spring andÃ? would like to know how people feel about the test, are using them as a guideÃ? and how important they consider it. I realize that this isnÃ?¢ââ??‰â??¢t the totalÃ? answer and that it is just another tool in decision making inÃ? breeding.Ã? This girls mother is 11 1/2 not showing any signs of DMÃ? . Thanks for your time.Ã? I did put this on the Canadian list and onlyÃ? received one reply, so thought I tryÃ? here. Margaret ===========================================================================P OST is Copyrighted 2011.Ã? All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.Ã? This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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