In a message dated 12/8/11 8:20:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, winstone@xxxxxxxxx writes: I just had to put my 6 yr old to sleep because of DM, I am curious about how many breeders are using the tests available and what the consensus is on them. I feel sorry for anyone who goes through this. We could never find out if Big Ben had this, as we x-rayed him when he showed signs of a hip or back problem and he had two herniated discs. But, we think he did have DM, and we think his sire did as well, but could not prove it. Now, in hind-sight, I am sorry he produced so many quality animals, but at least we can now find out what they produce and how safe they are, with the test. We now use the test exculsively. It is yet another tool. We just bred an Army daughter who tested clean for DM. We have five Ben puppies, and we will test them all. I think the DM test is a great tool. How well it works will only be known in another generation or two. I have seen dogs with great hips and free from DM go down with other problems. I have seen dogs with terrible hips live to 13 with no problems. We can only do the best we can with what we have. I am old enough to remember when we did not x-ray elbows. Now, that is a must for any stud dog. We continue to improve our breed and gain the tools we need to do so. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================