[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Can't help them all
- From: Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx>
- To: ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:51:21 -0500
So, a german shepherd is "pet quality" if it can't finish in the AKC ring?
That means it is not breed standard, correct? I am just trying to clarify for
myself......
Thus, it would seem, the show ring, and only the show ring, is what determines
correct breed standard? Is this correct?
Is the show ring ever wrong? Has the show ring ever selected for things that
are not necessary to correct breed standard? I am just wondering.
It seems that any standard is subject to interpretation and how that
interpretation is utilized would determine the type of animal that would
result. But, please correct me, constructively, if I am incorrect.
Sara
On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Penny & Bill wrote:
> Oh boy, here we go again. But since you asked, here is MY reply.
> There is ONE GSD standard--people have different interpretations of
> it; indeed that is why there are breed shows where judges look at what
> they're presented, choosing the best dogs that are closest to the
> standard. In performance, judges choose the dogs that are performing
> BEST the tasks at hand. If GSD owners choose to interpret the
> standard, I hope they do so wisely. I remember the first GSD I
> bought. At the time, I thought he was GREAT--he wasn't. The best
> thing about him was that he was OFA certified. He was square. But as
> I began to show in obedience and breed, I learned and could tell the
> difference between the PET I bought and the correct dogs I was seeing
> in the breed and obedience rings. I read every book I could get my
> hands on, talked to anyone who would talk to me; more importantly, I
> listened. As a newbie, I wasn't accusatory, demanding or unkind. I
> didn't have a chip on my shoulder because I had bought a pet. I
> learned from it!
>
> Now it's off to VA Beach, where there are a couple of specialty shows
> this weekend. Yahoo!
>
> Penny in NC
> The Farm Dog
>
> On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Sara Minsk wrote:
>
>> Hmmm...."honor the standard". What does that really mean? The
>> problem is that everyone has their OWN interpretation of the
>> standard and everyone thinks they are right. Each group feels that
>> THEIR representation of the breed is the correct one......
>>
>> I am currently working on changing my attitude to include a lot of
>> different german shepherds as being "the standard" and still
>> correct....even if they are doing different things.
>>
>> I am *starting* to discover that a show dog can be breed standard; a
>> schutzhund dog can be breed standard; same for performance dogs,
>> SAR, military/police, companions, therapy dogs, etc..they can all
>> look slightly different and yet still honor the breed standard.
>>
>> But, I am still learning- so take my opinion for what it is worth! :-)
>>
>> Just my two cents,
>> Sara
>> On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Penny & Bill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I would also think that since Sally is an artist, she should be able
>>> to choose what TYPE of dog appears on her merchandise. She chooses
>>> to
>>> honor the standard. It's like all the different venues: I choose to
>>> show in breed and obedience; others choose agility, rally, herding,
>>> therapy work, etc. Who was it who said that you can't please all the
>>> people all of the time?
>>>
>>> Penny in NC
>>
>
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