I agree Sally. I hope Sara is not in that group. She asked some good questions written in a manner that gave the impression of wanting to learn, but then her answers were such that lead me to believe that she had very preconceived ideas and opinions that were already a mind set. I could be totally wrong, and hope I am, but if not, I'm not sure how one can help a person like that. There is no crime in not liking a certain venue, but if one wants to compete in that venue, in this case, the AKC show ring, it just makes sense to watch and learn first. I attended my first conformation Sieger show in April, the style is different. The presentation of the dogs is very different, and I remember thinking, why don't they let them out on a loose lead instead of pulling into the collar so hard it shortens up the front and one can't really see the dogs gait? Different venue, different style. So hopefully after re-reading some posts, Sara will either decide to accept it as helpful advice, or that it's just not her cup of tea. But I truly don't feel that this list shunned or chased her away, that would be her decision. Again, JMO Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist OFA H/E Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA >________________________________ >From: Sally Hayden <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> >To: The List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 3:19 PM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Can't help them all > >At the Topeka national I was in my booth talking with a couple friends. We >were discussing why >My .agility/performance design was not selling. I felt it was a good looking >sweatshirt. A lady who I did not know was standing there with her dog >listening. She finally asked if I wanted her opinion . Yes I did. She informed >me I had put a conformation dog coming out of the tunnel . The agility dogs >don't look like that they look like this. And she pointed to her dog. And she >would never buy anything that had a dog like that on it.I am sure this was a >wonderful pet that she loved very much but it had no resemblance to the >standard at all. I thought my friends would bust waiting for my answer. >There was no way I could have changed her mind it was closed. Some times >you just can't help people who have all the answers > >Sally >www.embroiderybysally.org >CHRISTMAS SALE > >===========================================================================>POST > is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original >author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind >are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the >Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > >Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and >its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed >in any post. > >ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY >MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS >PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY >FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE >PROSECUTED. > >For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > >VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ; >SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html >NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ >===========================================================================> > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================