In a message dated 11/10/2005 10:24:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, marhaven@xxxxxxx writes: We're losing this battle..... I had one go from a happy dog playing with it's family at the river about a 100 feet away ......to "locking into" me as I sat with an 8 mos. old pup at the river. The owners were trying to call it back as it made that stiff legged stiff tail approach towards me....unprovoked and with a NICE family.....and totally in another zone as it came at me....didn't even seem to hear it's owners...and the look in it's eyes!! Had my 8 mos. old pup not stood up and threatened it to stay back......causing it to hesitate and finally snap out of it and respond to the owners. So, shoot me now ...... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx Carolyn, You have a very valid point. The Pit Bull craze has many NICE people and families buying or adopting a breed that was bred to fight. Many are in way over their heads. And, let's face it, most pet people don't know a thing about training a dog. However, that doesn't mean there is no solution. Making owners of people who breed a dog to fight or use these dogs as a weapon is a very good start. Education is also important and people are becoming a lot less ignorant about the difference between and Am Staff and a Pit Bull. But more needs to be done in the education department. Yes, there are BAD dogs. I had a Lab that turned on me when she was 3 yrs old. Had her from a pup. Great lines, solid temperament everywhere. She just went nutso after I had my baby. I found out she was epileptic and that may have contributed to it, but the point is it can happen in any breed. So to punish a BREED isn't going to help anything. Breed Legislation punishes the majority for the minority. That is not right either. The "Broken Windows" theory states that you start with the small things to eventually take care of the bigger picture. That is where we need to start. Punish the BAD GUYS and put the responsibility where it needs to be. Abolish cock fighting and dog fighting in States where it is lstill egal. Make harsher laws for any criminal who uses a dog in the futherance of a crime or to protect illegal activity. Educate people who want to adopt Pit Bulls. PSA's would be awesome if folks could gather the money PETA has to run Ads. Cities could even adopt an ordinance requiring people to have obedience school certificates to re-register any dog over 1 yr old. And, yes, our show dogs could do this too. Very basic stuff requiring the dog to listen to the owner. I just don't think sweeping BSL's will benefit anyone or reduce the number of attacks. It will be just like gun legislation. Eventually, only the BAD guys will have them. JMHO Laura Thomas http://www.treasureranchgsds.com/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================