Thank you Carolyn. . Werner http//imagegermanshepherds.com    . IMG akc Reg'd.  BISS Am/Can CH. Scher-Lo's Mr Karizma HIC.OFA h&e Am.CH. Hadori's Samantha OFA h&e B.O.F CH. Pointed, Lorien's Play By Play OFA h&e/DM. On Friday, February 21, 2014 5:20 PM, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: So this info below STILL makes it like it is "MORE" than an Amateur Class!? We don't give out Rosettes for a Bred By dog beating another Bred By dog? Why do these changes always have to have ....."special" compensation? We should just merely allow a class in the Futurity and the Maturity where someone is guaranteed to not compete with a professional handler. AND... IF that IS the REAL purpose....why would they be allowed to hire a professional handler in winners? Suddenly it becomes NOT an Amateur handled dog??? Also....why is the Amateur Class broken down according to ages? Again that makes it "MORE" than an Amateur Class. If you want to use AKC shows as an 'example'....we don't break our Bred By, or American Bred, or Open or Novice classes into ages. They have their TITLE as AMERICAN BRED...etc. PERIOD. Amateur Class has it's "Title" as an AMATEUR CLASS .......PERIOD?? IF they win...of course they can compete for the higher Awards such as BIF, BIM...the National...etc. By why all the extra "compensation"?? Just because they entered a specific class?? This is becoming like the Long Coat Classes at the National. Not good enough to just offer a Long Coat Class.... Gotta have PUPPY LONG COAT CLASSES!! Why don't we have "Puppy" American Bred Classes at the National?? Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com From Joannie...... Subject: Re: IMO, KUDOS ~Amateur class for 2015 Here's the overview of the Amateur classes as it was presented to the Board at the January meeting: The Amateur as a separate event will be eliminated.  INSTEAD, there will be Amateur handled classes in the Regular futurity. The Amateur (handled) classes for each sex will be:  Junior Futurity Amateur Handled for Junior & Teenage Futurity aged animals Senior Futurity Amateur Handled for Intermediate & Senior Futurity aged animals Junior Maturity Amateur Handled Senior Maturity Amateur Handled ⢠Professionals (received compensation, rate card, etc.) cannot handle in the Amateur classes. An individual who trains and conditions dogs for others, may handle in the Amateur Classes if they are the breeder or in the family of the breeder of record of the dog being shown. ⢠Anyone can handle the entry in the winners class (same as BBE in point show). ⢠After winners, a Regional Best Amateur competition (must be handled by an amateur) will be held. Rosettes (no plaques) for Best & Best Opposite in each Amateur Futurity & Amateur Maturity. The winners will be entitled to show in the National Amateur finals. ⢠Redbook points will be calculated for ALL classes. ________________________________________ From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; gsdmum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: asgardgermshep@xxxxxxx; JoKareGS@xxxxxxx; ltelfair@xxxxxxx; kathypotter85@xxxxxxxxx; fk.fasano@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 9:52 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: IMO, KUDOS ~Amateur class for 2015 Didn't I read y-day that a professional can take a dog/bitch back in for the equivalent of Winners? 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