The All-Breed judges don't seem to have as much trouble understanding this as some specialty judges!! :-) :-) It isn't rocket science!! I sure hope the GSDCA Select Committee doesn't berate and deride the AKC for using Select ribbons!! :-) :-) Paula Home of Best in Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047, DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:53:12 EDT Subject: Re: AKC <> Grand Champion Title lol, evan - i surely hope someone can. i am judging in June and have more than a few questions on this topic, including the following: grand CH points may only be awarded to champions of record. BUT, those eligible in the BOB class do include the winner(s) of the veteran class(es) - how is the judge supposed to know whether that vet is a CH of record or not? this whole thing sounds like a future paperwork nightmare - points awarded ... points taken away due to ineligibility. swiss cheese. diane ----------------------------------------- In a message dated 5/7/2010 8:46:36 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: Maybe Peggy can correct me, and inform all of us. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4be43b6bf3ea3370e2bst06duc ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================