lol, evan - i surely hope someone can. i am judging in June and have more than a few questions on this topic, including the following: grand CH points may only be awarded to champions of record. BUT, those eligible in the BOB class do include the winner(s) of the veteran class(es) - how is the judge supposed to know whether that vet is a CH of record or not? this whole thing sounds like a future paperwork nightmare - points awarded ... points taken away due to ineligibility. swiss cheese. diane Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds _Skatiebug'z_ (http://skatiebugz.shutterfly.com/) The online store for everything German Shepherd and then some! _http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com_ (http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com/) Skater's Blog In a message dated 5/7/2010 8:46:36 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: Maybe Peggy can correct me, and inform all of us. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================