Somebody posted these 'fun facts' about the current luminosity of the supernova, and his math checks out. Keep in mind that it should get a couple magnitudes brighter than mag. 11. I'm trying to get my mind around a point source that's as bright as the sun. http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6331794/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1#Post6332457 ---- (Assuming current apparent magnitude of 11, and a distance of 12 million light years.) If this supernova was right in the middle of the Oort cloud, about 1/3 light years away from Earth, it would appear as bright as the Sun. At 200 light years away (a bit closer than Spica) it would appear as bright as the full Moon. At 40k light years (near half-way across our galaxy) it would appear as bright as Sirius. Its luminosity in absolute terms is 1/2 billion times greater than the Sun.