[sac-forum] Re: MEADE ETX-LS 6" ACF

  • From: Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:18:04 -0700

Dwight,
Could you explain your statement "Chinese company yes but American invested or owned"? It seems there are all kinds of nuances on how things can be interpreted. To me, if it is a Chinese company, than how can it be American owned? If it is American owned then it is an American company not a Chinese company. Let's not confuse geographic location of a factory or headquarters with ownership. Also, if I am not mixing up my companies, when I was looking into getting a refractor many years ago I had checked into Synta. Synta seemed to have good reviews, but at the time was only sold in Canada (and Europe too I think and maybe some other countries, but not the US). I would have had to finagled somehow to buy one. Now, if it is an American owned company, then why would Synta have only been sold in Canada (I think Europe also). I see now Synta is now sold in the US (Skywatcher), but I don't think that was always the case? If I remember correctly, why was Synta not sold in the US but is now? Something changed. The ad in S&T says Skywatcher-USA. This sounds suspicious. It sounds like an overseas company attempting to fool Americans into believing it is a US company.

Anyway, I did some more searching on the internet to find out more about Synta. There is little of to find that is credible and authoritative. Some of the links below say it is a Chinese company, but then it appears in a couple links that it is really a Taiwan company. Anyone else have information on this that is not heresay? One thing that is clear is that Synta had a deep involvement with Celestron before being bought, and that Synta had a deep involvement in the development of the Nexstar.
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/257422/Main/103401
http://www.hktdc.com/sourcing/manufacturers/company_home/en/1X0417ZG/Synta_Technology_Corporation.htm
http://www.taiwantrade.com.tw/EP/Introduction.do?Method=showIntrIndex&company=synta
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Celestron#encyclopedia

Stan

dbogan3220@xxxxxxx wrote:

I was told once a while back that Syntha was actually owned by American backers. Chinese company yes but American invested or owned. Wikpedia is not a very reliable source of information, needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Dwight

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, Sep 5, 2009 7:00 pm
Subject: [sac-forum] Re: MEADE ETX-LS 6" ACF



dbogan3220@xxxxxxx wrote:

Meade Bashing goes back to the days of sci.astro.amatuer when people
used to complain about Meade products service and so on. Remember
their Nagler clones and the lawsuits with Celestron it just never
ends. Seems like Celestron might have the better product. Anyone do a
review on them. Oh and Meade does a lot of business with China as

well

as Mexico. Just like Celestron.



I don't think "just like Celestron". This is from Wikipedia "In early
2003 Celestron's rival, Meade Instruments
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meade_Instruments>, attempted a takeover
but a bankruptcy court allowed the sale of the company back to its
original owners. The company
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_%28law%29> had been U.S.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> owned until April 2005 when
it was acquired by SW Technology Corporation, a Delaware
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware> company and affiliate of Synta
Technology Corporation
<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Synta_Technology_Corporation&a
ction=edit&redlink=1>
in China <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China>. Synta is a leading
manufacturer of astronomy equipment and related components."  So,
apparently, Celestron is a Chinese owned company. Meade is not. Has
Celestron's ownership changed since this was put out in Wikipedia?
Stan


Dwight

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Sikes <KenGSikes@xxxxxxx>
To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, Sep 5, 2009 2:11 pm
Subject: [sac-forum] Re: MEADE ETX-LS 6" ACF

Last year at the AASP there were two Meade reps demonstrating the

newest

Meade telescopes,and even they admitted that Meade has lost some in

the

quality control department. I am not necessarily bashing Meade, as I

have

many Meade products the most recent a Meade 16" Lightbridge purchased
last
May. My ETX-125 PE (made in China) never has worked the way it is
supposed
to electronically, even after a trip back to Meade for repairs. The
optics
themselves are top notch. The Lightbridge is made in Taiwan and the

few

times I have been able to use it (due to weather) it has shown me

great

views.

Did you read the review Mike wrote ? ......and by the way this is

the

third
telescope he has had to return to Meade, one of the twice.

Ken Sikes




----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Gorodenski" <stanlep@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:46 AM
Subject: [sac-forum] Re: MEADE ETX-LS 6" ACF


I'm not sure if Meade has once again dropped the ball and is 'true to
form' as you claim, but Meade has produced good products, my LX75 10"
and LX200R 16" being two of them. What's with all this anti-Meade
bashing stuff? Is it because it is easy to criticize on the

internet?


A

hidden motive? I still choose Meade over other companies that are
Chinese companies. One of them is very prominent in the current

issues

of S&T.
Stan


Ken Sikes wrote:

Below is a link to a review of the recently released Meade ETX-LS .


The

review is by Mike Weasner and it seems that Meade is true to form

and


has

dropped the ball once again.


http://www.weasner.com/etx/reviews/2009/etx-ls-6-acf.html


Ken Sikes



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