[sac-board] Re: SACnews

I agree with Peter and AJ.  So, what do we do about it?

Steve Dodder
President, Saguaro Astronomy Club
Director, Stone Haven Observatory

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> From: acrayon@xxxxxxx
> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:18:15 -0700
> 
> I tend to agree with the tenor of this discussion.  If we are supplying 
> complimentary copies of our newsletter it seems, to me, that we should be 
> making decision on how it will be delivered.  Since there is a significant 
> cost involved for the printing, and they aren't paying for said printing, it 
> seems we should take a more proactive role in deciding on delivery 
> mechanism.  That delivery mechanisms first choice should be via e-mail.
> 
> AJ Crayon
> Phoenix, AZ
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "SAC Webmaster" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:59 PM
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> 
> 
> Given the relatively large expense it presents to the club, why are we
> letting the recipients determine this? It is a complimentary copy - the
> benefit being provided is that they are able to receive the current issue of
> the newsletter a full 3 months before it would generally be available to
> them. Asking them to bear the burden of printing it, if that is their
> desire, doesn't seem too much to ask.
> 
> Just my opinion. How do others feel?
> 
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:48 PM
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> 
> 
> Ah, Missed that point. I ran a straw poll of the comps a few year's back to
> let them know & encourage electronic delivery. Quite a few took that up.
> Several did not, the most common reason given was that they display then
> issue at their meetings for their members to peruse. I presume they didn't
> want to incur the time & cost of printing it themselves.
> 
> Maybe it's time again to poll the comps.
> 
> Clear Skies
> 
> Rick Tejera
> 
> Editor SACnews
> 
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> 
> Phoenix, Arizona
> 
> www.saguaroastro.org
> 
> saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of SAC Webmaster
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 16:53
> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> 
> My comment wasn't regarding mailed newsletters to members. I was
> specifically referring to the complimentary copies.
> 
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:37 PM
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> 
> 
> Peter,
> 
> There are still several members who don't have email or a slow connection.
> And there are those who for whatever reason prefer to have a printed copy
> mailed.
> 
> Clear Skies
> 
> Rick Tejera
> 
> Editor SACnews
> 
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> 
> Phoenix, Arizona
> 
> www.saguaroastro.org
> 
> saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of SAC Webmaster
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 16:34
> To: SAC Board
> Subject: [sac-board] SACnews
> 
> I just had the April issue of SACnews printed this afternoon and it will go
> out in tomorrow's mail. Using the latest database from Charlie, we print a
> total of 33 copies each month. Of the total, 22 are complimantary and 11 are
> mailed to paying members.
> The postage costs for the member's newsletters: $4.51 monthly; $54.12
> annually.
> 
> The postage costs for the complimentary copies: $9.02 monthly; $108.24
> annually.
> 
> The printing costs are donated, but represent an expense of about $20
> annually per copy.
> This translates to an expense of $220 annually for members and $440 annually
> for the complimentary issues.
> 
> Add in the postage and it's about $275 annually for the member's newsletters
> and $550 for the comps. Assuming we have a membership totaling 100, this
> represents roughly 9% and 19% of our annual income respectively - more than
> a quarter of the budget.
> 
> My question here is why we print and mail any complimentary copies. Wouldn't
> emailing the link to the current issue be sufficient? I can think of better
> uses for this money.
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> Peter
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