[sac-board] Re: SACnews

That sounds reasonable. If you want to wordsmith a one-pager, I'll see that 
it gets inserted into the comp issues for May.

Peter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rtejera@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:25 PM
Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews


First step would be to look at the current list of comps. Charlie said
he get me an updated copy alter today.

From that we could probably get a few that should've been sent email all
along Lowell Obs & the ASC come to mind here.

Next would be to email those that have email addresses and advise them
of the policy change.

Finally those with out email address could have an insert into the next
issue with the policy change, and a form to provide an email address.

Sound reasonable?

Rick Tejera
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-----Original Message-----
From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve D.
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:16
To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews

I agree with Peter and AJ.  So, what do we do about it?

Steve Dodder
President, Saguaro Astronomy Club
Director, Stone Haven Observatory

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http://www.stargazing.net/Astroman

> From: acrayon@xxxxxxx
> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:18:15 -0700
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> I tend to agree with the tenor of this discussion.  If we are=20
> supplying complimentary copies of our newsletter it seems, to me, that

> we should be making decision on how it will be delivered.  Since there

> is a significant cost involved for the printing, and they aren't=20
> paying for said printing, it seems we should take a more proactive=20
> role in deciding on delivery mechanism.  That delivery mechanisms
first choice should be via e-mail.
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> AJ Crayon
> Phoenix, AZ
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SAC Webmaster" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:59 PM
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
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> Given the relatively large expense it presents to the club, why are we

> letting the recipients determine this? It is a complimentary copy -=20
> the benefit being provided is that they are able to receive the=20
> current issue of the newsletter a full 3 months before it would=20
> generally be available to them. Asking them to bear the burden of=20
> printing it, if that is their desire, doesn't seem too much to ask.
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> Just my opinion. How do others feel?
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> Peter
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:48 PM
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
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> Ah, Missed that point. I ran a straw poll of the comps a few year's=20
> back to let them know & encourage electronic delivery. Quite a few
took that up.
> Several did not, the most common reason given was that they display=20
> then issue at their meetings for their members to peruse. I presume=20
> they didn't want to incur the time & cost of printing it themselves.
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> Maybe it's time again to poll the comps.
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> Clear Skies
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> Rick Tejera
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> Editor SACnews
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> Saguaro Astronomy Club
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> Phoenix, Arizona
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> www.saguaroastro.org
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> saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of SAC Webmaster
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 16:53
> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
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> My comment wasn't regarding mailed newsletters to members. I was=20
> specifically referring to the complimentary copies.
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> Peter
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:37 PM
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
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> Peter,
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> There are still several members who don't have email or a slow
connection.
> And there are those who for whatever reason prefer to have a printed=20
> copy mailed.
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> Clear Skies
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> Rick Tejera
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> Editor SACnews
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> Saguaro Astronomy Club
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> Phoenix, Arizona
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> www.saguaroastro.org
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> saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of SAC Webmaster
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 16:34
> To: SAC Board
> Subject: [sac-board] SACnews
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> I just had the April issue of SACnews printed this afternoon and it=20
> will go out in tomorrow's mail. Using the latest database from=20
> Charlie, we print a total of 33 copies each month. Of the total, 22=20
> are complimantary and 11 are mailed to paying members.
> The postage costs for the member's newsletters: $4.51 monthly; $54.12=20
> annually.
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> The postage costs for the complimentary copies: $9.02 monthly; $108.24

> annually.
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> The printing costs are donated, but represent an expense of about $20=20
> annually per copy.
> This translates to an expense of $220 annually for members and $440=20
> annually for the complimentary issues.
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> Add in the postage and it's about $275 annually for the member's=20
> newsletters and $550 for the comps. Assuming we have a membership=20
> totaling 100, this represents roughly 9% and 19% of our annual income=20
> respectively - more than a quarter of the budget.
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> My question here is why we print and mail any complimentary copies.=20
> Wouldn't emailing the link to the current issue be sufficient? I can=20
> think of better uses for this money.
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> Any comments?
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> Peter
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