[sac-board] Re: SACnews

Sounds good to me, Rick.

AJ Crayon
Phoenix, AZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve D." <fester00@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews


Sounds good to me, Rick.

Steve Dodder
President, Saguaro Astronomy Club
Director, Stone Haven Observatory

fester00@xxxxxxxxxxx

http://www.stargazing.net/Astroman

> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:25:18 -0400
> From: rtejera@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> First step would be to look at the current list of comps. Charlie said
> he get me an updated copy alter today.=20
>
> From that we could probably get a few that should've been sent email all
> along Lowell Obs & the ASC come to mind here.
>
> Next would be to email those that have email addresses and advise them
> of the policy change.
>
> Finally those with out email address could have an insert into the next
> issue with the policy change, and a form to provide an email address=20
>
> Sound reasonable?
>
> Rick Tejera
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve D.
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:16
> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
>
> I agree with Peter and AJ.  So, what do we do about it?
>
> Steve Dodder
> President, Saguaro Astronomy Club
> Director, Stone Haven Observatory
>
> fester00@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> http://www.stargazing.net/Astroman
>
> > From: acrayon@xxxxxxx
> > To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:18:15 -0700
> >=20
> > I tend to agree with the tenor of this discussion.  If we are=20
> > supplying complimentary copies of our newsletter it seems, to me, that
>
> > we should be making decision on how it will be delivered.  Since there
>
> > is a significant cost involved for the printing, and they aren't=20
> > paying for said printing, it seems we should take a more proactive=20
> > role in deciding on delivery mechanism.  That delivery mechanisms
> first choice should be via e-mail.
> >=20
> > AJ Crayon
> > Phoenix, AZ
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "SAC Webmaster" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:59 PM
> > Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> >=20
> >=20
> > Given the relatively large expense it presents to the club, why are we
>
> > letting the recipients determine this? It is a complimentary copy -=20
> > the benefit being provided is that they are able to receive the=20
> > current issue of the newsletter a full 3 months before it would=20
> > generally be available to them. Asking them to bear the burden of=20
> > printing it, if that is their desire, doesn't seem too much to ask.
> >=20
> > Just my opinion. How do others feel?
> >=20
> > Peter
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:48 PM
> > Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> >=20
> >=20
> > Ah, Missed that point. I ran a straw poll of the comps a few year's=20
> > back to let them know & encourage electronic delivery. Quite a few
> took that up.
> > Several did not, the most common reason given was that they display=20
> > then issue at their meetings for their members to peruse. I presume=20
> > they didn't want to incur the time & cost of printing it themselves.
> >=20
> > Maybe it's time again to poll the comps.
> >=20
> > Clear Skies
> >=20
> > Rick Tejera
> >=20
> > Editor SACnews
> >=20
> > Saguaro Astronomy Club
> >=20
> > Phoenix, Arizona
> >=20
> > www.saguaroastro.org
> >=20
> > saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
> >=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of SAC Webmaster
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 16:53
> > To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> >=20
> > My comment wasn't regarding mailed newsletters to members. I was=20
> > specifically referring to the complimentary copies.
> >=20
> > Peter
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:37 PM
> > Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> >=20
> >=20
> > Peter,
> >=20
> > There are still several members who don't have email or a slow
> connection.
> > And there are those who for whatever reason prefer to have a printed=20
> > copy mailed.
> >=20
> > Clear Skies
> >=20
> > Rick Tejera
> >=20
> > Editor SACnews
> >=20
> > Saguaro Astronomy Club
> >=20
> > Phoenix, Arizona
> >=20
> > www.saguaroastro.org
> >=20
> > saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of SAC Webmaster
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 16:34
> > To: SAC Board
> > Subject: [sac-board] SACnews
> >=20
> > I just had the April issue of SACnews printed this afternoon and it=20
> > will go out in tomorrow's mail. Using the latest database from=20
> > Charlie, we print a total of 33 copies each month. Of the total, 22=20
> > are complimantary and 11 are mailed to paying members.
> > The postage costs for the member's newsletters: $4.51 monthly; $54.12=20
> > annually.
> >=20
> > The postage costs for the complimentary copies: $9.02 monthly; $108.24
>
> > annually.
> >=20
> > The printing costs are donated, but represent an expense of about $20=20
> > annually per copy.
> > This translates to an expense of $220 annually for members and $440=20
> > annually for the complimentary issues.
> >=20
> > Add in the postage and it's about $275 annually for the member's=20
> > newsletters and $550 for the comps. Assuming we have a membership=20
> > totaling 100, this represents roughly 9% and 19% of our annual income=20
> > respectively - more than a quarter of the budget.
> >=20
> > My question here is why we print and mail any complimentary copies.=20
> > Wouldn't emailing the link to the current issue be sufficient? I can=20
> > think of better uses for this money.
> >=20
> > Any comments?
> >=20
> > Peter
> >=20
> >=20
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