Hello Marvin,
I hope you dont mind my asking. How old are you?
Antonio
On 18 Sep 2006, at 04:58, Marvin Wallace wrote:
So that I don't have to carry to many pieces of gadgetry, I will down load
music to my mobile phone, I think that this is a much more practical
solution to carrying music than missing calls because of being plugged into
the IPOD or MP3 player. As for "interface" I think Sony's interface is
excellent. I travel about two hours to and from work every day, and I can
hardly get time to listen to music, what with studying and the Rollei list
of course. But when I can the MP3 suits my needs.
But back to the main point, I am on the Rollei list because I LOVE Rollei
cameras and in particular the Rollei 3.5F TLR. Because I am not a Mac user
although I was once but no longer am, this does not compromise my being on a
Rollei list.
I like the Planar because it gives beautiful grays when using the zone
system. And the square format is excellent for composition.
I don't know how to use Photoshop very well, but I have considerable
experience in exposing films and printing in the darkroom. This is why Im on
the Rollei list. If I wanted to debate PC's and Mac's I would join a Mac's
rule type list.
Just my compatibility problems worth.
-----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Dernie Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:28 AM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Wanted to Buy Macintosh SE/30
obviously our priorities differ! I travel all over the world for my work (about 60 flights a year) and am a music lover. The ipod is absolutely the best thing that has happened to my travelling in 30 years! I pre-ordered the original as soon as it was announced and it is still going strong. The walkman was a great breakthrough but the ipod does it so small. I also now have a larger capacity one too. It has been a delight to own a piece of microprocessor controlled domestic equipment with an intelligent intuitive user interface. None of the Japanese mass market have managed it, be it programming a VCR or changing the settings on a digicam! My daughter bought a Sony mp3 player in a burst of "anti hype" - nicely made unit - not as good in any other way. Frank
On 18 Sep, 2006, at 03:09, Marvin Wallace wrote:
Frank wrote, If cheap is your main arbiter I am surprised you are on the Rollei list ;-)
Nice point Frank although completely irrelevant! I'm on the Rollei list because I love Rollei cameras. My being on the Rollei list is because I am a fine art photographer! This in my opinion has nothing to do with Mac vs P.C, either of which I am very interested in, although I dislike Mac more; particularly since the launch of the idiotic IPOD. Just Shuffling. Marvin.
-----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Dernie Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:28 AM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Wanted to Buy Macintosh SE/30
not my experience. In the 80s when the pc appeared it was pitifully slow and had the first really bad commercial operating system. I did not work properly. Good marketing persuaded naive new to computers customers that that was normal. Compared to the (cheaper) computer I was using at the time it was about 50x slower and crashed all the time. The mac was much more expensive initially, but massively more powerful - necessary for the very much more powerful operating system - which made it easy for non techies to use. The relative merits and prices have ebbed and flowed in the meantime and I have continued to (have to) use both. PCs have normally been cheaper and worse made, for gaming they are a no brainer as the video is faster. From a software point of view the Apple OS has always been superior to any of the concurrent Microsoft OSs, usually very considerably. From a hardware point of view Apple, to an extent, shot themselves in the foot by not letting others make compatible hardware. It will always be a matter of opinion but most of the time the Apple hardware has been better styled and made but pcs from super cheap sources were great for students (and cheapskates). My current laptops are Hewlett a Packard PC and oldish G4 Mac 17". They cost about the same, the HP is potentially a touch faster but the software rarely works smoothly, particularly on the company network - the IT department don't know why (XP Pro) and have not been able to fix it...... The Mac is much better made, the OS (10.4.7) is very much superior. If cheap is your main arbiter I am surprised you are on the Rollei list ;-) Frank
On 17 Sep, 2006, at 16:26, Marvin Wallace wrote:
I too was a Macintosh user, and then I bought a P.C and found that there is little difference between the two, the exception being Macs are stupidly overpriced. P.C's are cheaper faster and have a whole lot more accessories at a third of the price.
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