[rollei_list] Re: Wanted to Buy Macintosh SE/30
- From: "Marvin Wallace" <Marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:58:12 -0700
So that I don't have to carry to many pieces of gadgetry, I will down load
music to my mobile phone, I think that this is a much more practical
solution to carrying music than missing calls because of being plugged into
the IPOD or MP3 player. As for "interface" I think Sony's interface is
excellent. I travel about two hours to and from work every day, and I can
hardly get time to listen to music, what with studying and the Rollei list
of course. But when I can the MP3 suits my needs.
But back to the main point, I am on the Rollei list because I LOVE Rollei
cameras and in particular the Rollei 3.5F TLR. Because I am not a Mac user
although I was once but no longer am, this does not compromise my being on a
Rollei list.
I like the Planar because it gives beautiful grays when using the zone
system. And the square format is excellent for composition.
I don't know how to use Photoshop very well, but I have considerable
experience in exposing films and printing in the darkroom. This is why Im on
the Rollei list. If I wanted to debate PC's and Mac's I would join a Mac's
rule type list.
Just my compatibility problems worth.
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[mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Dernie
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:28 AM
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Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Wanted to Buy Macintosh SE/30
obviously our priorities differ! I travel all over the world for my
work (about 60 flights a year) and am a music lover. The ipod is
absolutely the best thing that has happened to my travelling in 30
years! I pre-ordered the original as soon as it was announced and it
is still going strong. The walkman was a great breakthrough but the
ipod does it so small. I also now have a larger capacity one too. It
has been a delight to own a piece of microprocessor controlled
domestic equipment with an intelligent intuitive user interface. None
of the Japanese mass market have managed it, be it programming a VCR
or changing the settings on a digicam! My daughter bought a Sony mp3
player in a burst of "anti hype" - nicely made unit - not as good in
any other way.
Frank
On 18 Sep, 2006, at 03:09, Marvin Wallace wrote:
> Frank wrote,
> If cheap is your main arbiter I am surprised you are on the Rollei
> list ;-)
>
> Nice point Frank although completely irrelevant! I'm on the Rollei
> list
> because I love Rollei cameras. My being on the Rollei list is
> because I am a
> fine art photographer! This in my opinion has nothing to do with
> Mac vs P.C,
> either of which I am very interested in, although I dislike Mac more;
> particularly since the launch of the idiotic IPOD.
> Just Shuffling.
> Marvin.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Dernie
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:28 AM
> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Wanted to Buy Macintosh SE/30
>
> not my experience.
> In the 80s when the pc appeared it was pitifully slow and had the
> first really bad commercial operating system. I did not work
> properly. Good marketing persuaded naive new to computers customers
> that that was normal. Compared to the (cheaper) computer I was using
> at the time it was about 50x slower and crashed all the time.
> The mac was much more expensive initially, but massively more
> powerful - necessary for the very much more powerful operating system
> - which made it easy for non techies to use.
> The relative merits and prices have ebbed and flowed in the meantime
> and I have continued to (have to) use both. PCs have normally been
> cheaper and worse made, for gaming they are a no brainer as the video
> is faster. From a software point of view the Apple OS has always been
> superior to any of the concurrent Microsoft OSs, usually very
> considerably. From a hardware point of view Apple, to an extent, shot
> themselves in the foot by not letting others make compatible
> hardware. It will always be a matter of opinion but most of the time
> the Apple hardware has been better styled and made but pcs from super
> cheap sources were great for students (and cheapskates).
> My current laptops are Hewlett a Packard PC and oldish G4 Mac 17".
> They cost about the same, the HP is potentially a touch faster but
> the software rarely works smoothly, particularly on the company
> network - the IT department don't know why (XP Pro) and have not been
> able to fix it...... The Mac is much better made, the OS (10.4.7) is
> very much superior.
> If cheap is your main arbiter I am surprised you are on the Rollei
> list ;-)
> Frank
>
>
> On 17 Sep, 2006, at 16:26, Marvin Wallace wrote:
>
>> I too was a Macintosh user, and then I bought a P.C and found that
>> there is
>> little difference between the two, the exception being Macs are
>> stupidly
>> overpriced. P.C's are cheaper faster and have a whole lot more
>> accessories
>> at a third of the price.
>>
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